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Stopping a teen from accessing the internet???

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  • robt_2
    robt_2 Posts: 3,401 Forumite
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    Linbox wrote: »
    I am quite well known as being a bit thick but, Um... when is !!!!!! legal?

    Almost all !!!!!! is legal.

    Almost all !!!!!! sites have free guest sections

    There are sites similar to YouTube but for !!!!!!.

    Allegedly.

    Why would you think it is illegal?
  • marleyboy
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    I really cant see why everyones attacking the op for being a responsible parent. Yes the lad is entitled to a little privacy, but where would you draw the line (can he shoot up with needles in his own room for example?).

    Point is, the OP pays the bill, regardless of privacy, if the lad objected, he could always opt to pay for his own service, or get used to the idea his pc may be monitored. (My boss reminds everyone at work and rightly so).
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  • aliEnRIK
    aliEnRIK Posts: 17,741 Forumite
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    The OPs right to be concerned. Everyone I know who has teenagers that use the net have been going onto sites they shouldnt.
    :idea:
  • bookduck
    bookduck Posts: 1,136 Forumite
    yes, you can probably stop him, or greatly hinder him - but can you stop him connecting to your neighbors wireless?

    Other way to limit !!!!!! is to use the 'safe' version of open dns - look on their web site. this does not stop p2p though

    I feel that if you are asking this 'how to' question, you very may have well lost the battle to your tech savvy youngster as he will always be one step ahead. If you have not lost now, with unlimited access and ability to question others, I fear you will very shortly have lost the war.
    GOOGLE it before you ask, you'll often save yourself a lot of time. ;)
  • marleyboy
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    I dont think the Op is worried about whether he can hack into a neighbours internet connection, hence his post being the issue regarding the one responsible for the internet connection, should anything illegal be downloaded using his internet provider (NOT the neighbours)..
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  • wacko911
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    Change your routers DNS servers to use openDNS (Free) and then you can check the IP address accessed (not really spying as it only tells you the site and not specific pages). If there are sites you do not want on your network you can login to openDNS and add them to your blacklist.

    Okay not the most secure way as someone to could just use another DNS server or a proxy site, but at least its a start.

    edit: just read bookduck's post
  • SplanK
    SplanK Posts: 1,155 Forumite
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    Ok - so you want to block access to some sites and not others..

    IMHO the solutions given so far are not going to do what you want.... just blocking him net access is going to be a pain - what you need is some content access managment so you dont have to be spying on hime 24/7 which will really grait with him and may cause problems. I cant quite remember if the DG834 comes with something like this already - you might want to check through the options.

    An alternative method is to replace the router with something like a Draytek Vigor 2820n router. These are around £170~ and are a very "techy" router - they are more designed for corporate networks rather than home.... however built into these are various filtering systems...

    you are able to block all the known file sharing networks, you are able to block specific websites and you are able to block certain catagories of websites.... only downside is these effect all computers - however these work really really well

    openDNS is a good system - however is EASILY worked around - esp a 17 year old kid - just google "get around openDNS" will show up loads of results but could be a good start and is free!

    another option for you is a software based solution - remember a program called Net Nanny?? The only downside to these is in a lot of cases - these are easily worked around with a bit of knowlage of computer systems!

    IMHO - the best - although slightly costly option would be a router with some good content managment filtering - withouth access to the routers configuration - you cant get around it unless you conntect to somebody elses network!
  • i have 3 teenagers , we are a 4 laptop and one big cumbersome in the corner of the main living room computer family

    i have keylogger spyware on every single machine, the kids no nothing about it, i dont care if its an infringements of anyones rights its my house and my machines and my dam right to know what they get up to , if the kids dont like it if they ever find out first , then tough they can move out.

    they just think im good with computers and no longer access or do anything illegal on the computer or let their friends use our computers as i wont let them


    hope this doesnt start world war 3 on the forums lol im not changing its not an option, i dont trust ANY kids , i know what they get up to and they need supervision &, guidance, its a harsh world out there and its my job to protect them until they move out, when my duty is over and they have to stand on their own two feet, in the meantime im as devious as is necessary
  • SplanK
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    how does logging their movment stop them getting onto things that they are not allowed too and if they are chatting away - then by rights the logging is going to be fairly large to sift through.... again the best way to do things like this is a router with content managment on it... no logs to look through, its quite obvious, does not require you looking over their shoulder every 5 mins and if its on the router - they cant get around it easily!
  • robt_2
    robt_2 Posts: 3,401 Forumite
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    cazpumpkin wrote: »
    i have 3 teenagers , we are a 4 laptop and one big cumbersome in the corner of the main living room computer family

    i have keylogger spyware on every single machine, the kids no nothing about it, i dont care if its an infringements of anyones rights its my house and my machines and my dam right to know what they get up to , if the kids dont like it if they ever find out first , then tough they can move out.

    they just think im good with computers and no longer access or do anything illegal on the computer or let their friends use our computers as i wont let them


    hope this doesnt start world war 3 on the forums lol im not changing its not an option, i dont trust ANY kids , i know what they get up to and they need supervision &, guidance, its a harsh world out there and its my job to protect them until they move out, when my duty is over and they have to stand on their own two feet, in the meantime im as devious as is necessary

    That is spying, not protecting no matter how you dress it up.

    Do you read their diary's and open their letters too? It is not different at all. Maybe you tap their telephone calls and record them? Maybe you track them with GPS?

    A key logger is spying, hence you using the word spyware in your own post.
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