Housing Benefits

DNF

Auzelia wrote: »

So you have never received public services.

where you born in a private hospital
where you treated by private doctors
where you given a private education (though I doubt that if you left school at 14)

Who is to even say you can get into Uni, maybe you will have to do an adult return to learning course first (usually at college) then go onto Uni.

Im sorry but you really do come across as someone who is just trying to drain the coffers.
Whats the matter? Are you bored on christmas eve ....?

not really mate,

sorry for confusing you, but i think i got my answers

thanks for your help

Alleycat

As far as I am aware you would need to claim Job Seekers Allowance in the borough that you live, so if you move to a different borough you will need to transfer your claim.

Do be aware however that if you are a single person and studying full time at university you will not be eligible to claim Job Seekers or LHA (Housing Benefit).

You should also consider that once you graduate and find a job, you will find that your LHA decreases or stops totally depending on your income. So if you move to a more expensive borough at this time, you may not still be able to afford it once your income increases.

DNF

Alleycat wrote: »

As far as I am aware you would need to claim Job Seekers Allowance in the borough that you live, so if you move to a different borough you will need to transfer your claim.

Do be aware however that if you are a single person and studying full time at university you will not be eligible to claim Job Seekers or LHA (Housing Benefit).

You should also consider that once you graduate and find a job, you will find that your LHA decreases or stops totally depending on your income. So if you move to a more expensive borough at this time, you may not still be able to afford it once your income increases.

Thanks for that :j

i think i'll look in to part time study and part time work, and try to get a student loan but not sure if i can get one.
When i work i can aford 260 weekly, that what i used to pay not so long ago.

thank you.

Oldernotwiser

DNF wrote: »

Thanks for that :j

i think i'll look in to part time study and part time work, and try to get a student loan but not sure if i can get one.
When i work i can aford 260 weekly, that what i used to pay not so long ago.

thank you.

You don't get a loan for part time study, although you may be able to get the fees paid.

DNF

"Oldernotwiser" and "DMG24"

From the “thanks” you have given to Auzelia it is clear to me that you too, think I’m only “trying to drain the coffers” or maybe just “bored on Christmas” and in that respect i would expect you to be unhappy with my attitude and time you’re wasting here…so please, let me get the answers i need from people who understand my situation, i do not wish to argue with you or any body else about facts i know nothing about.
The reason I have published this post was to ask the questions and get the answers however, it seems that i have managed to p??s you off and for that I’m sorry, I really had no intention to do so.

I do appreciate your help but don’t want the help if it means you will need to spend so much energy and end up irritated trying to understand my broken vocabulary….

DNF


Merry Christmas to you all

Oldernotwiser

The people you're criticising understand your situation only too well, which is why we're not that sympathetic. You seem to think that you've found a loophole that will allow you to live pretty well off benefits whilst studying and you also think that this will be an easy thing to do, despite the fact that you left school at the age of 14!

Your contempt for the education and benefits system in this country is highly inappropriate and people have been quite open in pointing this out to you. You've also had specific answers to your questions, even if they've not been what you've wanted to hear.

I've spent many years advising adults on returning to education and I've seen the sacrifices they've made to do so. I'm quite happy to supply you with the information you need and would have been more polite to you if I'd seen you in a professional capacity. As I'm on here in my own time I shall carry on expressing any views that I see fit; whether you like it or not!

briona

DNF wrote: »

to be honest yes, it sure looks like some peaple are getting all that and i have been paying for it, a LOT:mad:

so now i just want to see what all the fuss is about? can i really learn and get support, if yes then wow, but it looks like not

i seem to only need to pay in this country, i never get any thing back, why?

This kind of post p*sses me right off! :mad:

Firstly whilst you have clearly paid taxes/NI, on a salary of 35K, you have not contributed anymore percentage-wise than anyone else in the lower tax bracket. Currently you don't pay 40% tax till you earn over £34,800, but when you take into account your tax free allowance of £6,035, you are back into the lower tax bracket of 22%. So there are many others out there who actually have contributed "a LOT". The laws of this country are such that it is illegal not to pay tax above a certain earnings threshold – hence there is little point in whinging about it.

Secondly you do not pay into the system so that you can take out "as and when it suits you". The system is there primarily to support those who cannot work, or those who (temporarily) cannot find work; it also supports children and the elderly. Our taxes help to fund the Health Service, which means that even the poorest people in this country can have at least some health care. You may even benefit from it one day. Or perhaps you already have done? Why would you complain about that?!

The belief you have that benefit claimants are apparently "getting everything and more" is more than likely flawed. I doubt that you know the ins and outs of everyone's situation – just read some posts on the benefits board and you might get an idea of how hard some claimants' lives are... Of course some complete and utter scroungers slip through the net but is there any point in worrying about them?! I'd quite happily bet that my quality of life, despite funding theirs, is better.

With regards to funding for education it all depends on what you want to study and where. It is worth noting that most non-nationals have to pay fees, though on a salary of 35K, perhaps you have some savings put by...? As a single childless adult, you will not get benefits to enable you to pay for education.

margaretclare

This kind of post p*sses me right off!

I agree with you, briona.

As a retired woman I hear this kind of thing all the time in relation to older people. 'My neighbour never saved and gets everything, pension credit etc'. Well, I always worked, paid into the system, and so did my DH. We did this for a total of nearly a century between us. We do get retirement pensions but we don't get any of the means-tested benefits that poorer people in our age-group can get.

However, we've both benefited from the NHS. DH in recent weeks when he developed an infection in his knee which blew up into septicaemia. Where would we have been without the facilities that exist, the Critical Care, the surgical teams, even now the daily visits from the District Nursing Service to give him his daily intravenous antibiotics, including Christmas Day!

When I see comments like 'it seems that I only have to pay in this country....' implying that in other countries the OP wouldn't have to pay, all I can say is to quote the old soldier in the First World War who said 'If you know of a better 'ole then go there!'

Me, I am only thankful that I live here. In some countries my DH would not have been admitted and treated with skill and expertise - not unless we'd had a cheque-book open at the hospital door.

seven-day-weekend

In every developed country people have to pay in some form or another to provide Healthcare, Education, etc. Some will pay more than others and some will use the services more than others (and some who use the services will also be people who have paid in a lot like MargaretClare and her husband - it is not just the people who don't pay, who 'get it all' ,regardless of popular Daily Mail opinion). That's the way it works.

Here in Spain, just to give one example, if you are self-employed you have to pay about 230 euros a month as your Self-Employed NI Contribution (and also Income Tax if your earnings are high enough). This 230 euros has to be paid no matter how little you make from your self-employment - even if you earn nothing - if you are registered as self-employed you have to pay it. The only way not to pay it is to officially de-register as self-employed and sign on as unemployed.

People who think they should get back what they have paid in are being very unraealistic. I have paid in quite a lot myself over the years, but never claimed any State Benefits, other than Child Benefit, in my life (because I've not been entitled to them), but I accept that and think myself lucky that I haven't been in a position where I have had to rely on them.

Anyway I'm rambling but just to say I think the OP is not entitled to any help with funding his education, other than the usual student loan.

DNF

Once again i would like to thank all of you.
a student loan to help pay for my studies while i work part time and study part time would be nice.
I think i can stop looking for a full time job and maybe even go self employed now.
So i will stop signing for JSA and will not look for housing benefits, but still rent for 260 where i like regardless to the benefits.


Thank you all for the advice, you saved me a lot of time. :j