Parking Ticket Appeals article discussion

Coupon-mad

Your chances of getting to the stage of wanting to appeal to PATAS are 100% because everyone has the statutory right to take a Council PCN to an adjudicator.

But most Councils fold before that stage with an appeal that has substance - so not everyone even needs to go to that meeting. GEt your formal appeal worded well and even if the Council reject it they may well throw in the towel rather than want to argue against you in fornt of an adjudicator. Most cases which go that far are allowed anyway and those that lose only have to pay the full (non discounted) fine, no costs or anything.

I often say on here I would honestly appeal ANY Council PCN to the end of the process even if I felt I was up shht creek without a paddle. The important thing is to meet deadlines and get the appeal right. Never ignore any letters.

Pepipoo are the experts, start a NEW thread over there.

The pepipoo link I gave before takes you straight to the right forum to post a new parking ticket query thread on. Read the FAQs and sticky threads at the top first and make sure you attach pictures of BOTH sides of the PCN (with your car ID and PCN number blanked off). Also pics of where you parked, lines and signs, are helpful too.

Andrewk, pepipoo posters have seen cases like yours before. Here's one where a favourable adjudication with a case number is cited (where the details scratched off on a permit were substantially complete enough to communicate a particular day of parking only):

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=55574

Read post number 5 by emanresu which gives a Brighton & Hove successful appeal case number with circumstances broadly comparable to your own. If you cite successful adjudications like that in your appeal that makes your case stronger.

Good luck and keep appealing is my advice.

Andrewk

Coupon-mad, thanks very much. I'll copy emansru's post and paste it into my letter to Camden.

By the way, I didn't get an email saying you'd replied...

Andrewk

And I've reset my settings now so I get emails of thread replies

By the way, I wasn't asking about my chances of appealing (badly worded). I meant, my chances of success, so thanks again

gujalls

Hi,

I would like to get your help and advice on my case.

Today I got a letter saying that I need to pay a fine £120 for PCN.

I was shocked to see this.

I parked in the Chiltern street parking center, which I think is a private car park and visited Madame Tussade.
After almost four hours i came back, paid the parking fee took my car out from the parking center and came into Chiltern street, where I halted my car in a resident parking bay to fix the tomtom and took my mom and wife into the car.

Things to note here are :-
1) I have halted (means not switched off my engine) my car in a resident parking bay.
2) I was always in the driver seat.
3) The halt time lasted less than 5 -10mins.
4) I had to halt to fix the GPS since I need to travel to Cambridge from Chiltern street (near madame tussade)
5) Also my mom n wife was waiting for get into the car.

And then I drove off the car.

I saw the traffic warden who walking along the my car from different direction, don't know what was his intention. I did not imagine it will be to put me in trouble.

This traffic warden never handed me any parking ticket nor said that I should not be fixing GPS in the resident park bay (which I think i can do ).

But now in the letter it has mentioned that the traffic warden has handed over the ticket to me and since I ignored the ticket I need to pay a fine of £120. How could people be so bad?

Please help me on this issue.

What should I do next inorder to get justice.

I am in process of asking for evidence, would like to know what they will provide?

Also, please let me know if a traffic warden issues a ticket what proof should he have since he has not stick the ticket on my car windscreen nor handed over to me.

Please let me know your thoughts.

Orford

gujalls wrote: »

Hi,


Things to note here are :-
1) I have halted (means not switched off my engine) my car in a resident parking bay.
2) I was always in the driver seat.
3) The halt time lasted less than 5 -10mins.
4) I had to halt to fix the GPS since I need to travel to Cambridge from Chiltern street (near madame tussade)
5) Also my mom n wife was waiting for get into the car.

1-4 are not valid exemptions, so irrelevant
5 Alighting/boarding is, (but not for 10 minutes)




.

I see that you have posted on Pepipoo. They are your best bet, if you want to fight this.

judtin

Can someone help me i was visiting my friend and parked in his space on his car park but came back to a £55 fine!!! i rang the number on the ticket and he said he'll ghet my details from the DVLA and take court action, can these theives do that!!!??

trisontana

judtin wrote: »

Can someone help me i was visiting my friend and parked in his space on his car park but came back to a £55 fine!!! i rang the number on the ticket and he said he'll ghet my details from the DVLA and take court action, can these theives do that!!!??

Was this a private parking ticket, or one issued by the council?

Coupon-mad

judtin wrote: »

Can someone help me i was visiting my friend and parked in his space on his car park but came back to a £55 fine!!! i rang the number on the ticket and he said he'll ghet my details from the DVLA and take court action, can these theives do that!!!??

It's a private parking company isn't it?

Then yes, they'll probably waste some money getting the registered keeper's details.

But no, they cannot 'do that' as in they can't make you pay, nor can they issue a fine.

Do a bit of reading, I expect you might think this is the only thread on this board about parking tickets? It's not, there's tons of info about PPC tickets and the threatograms they will send, and links to Watchdog programmes about the scam:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163

Every one of those threads, where it's about a PPC (private parking co) is like yours. Read at least the first page of threads and the advice and links you find. Then laugh and make the fake ticket into a paper aeroplane as per the Watchdog advice you'll find on the board.

Next time don't ring up scammers. You wouldn't respond to a phishing email would you, why do you think this scam is any different?

K8J

I received a parking ticket in Glasgow in early July while using my friend's car. I sent in an informal appeal to the council who rejected it then I was sent a notice to owner. I have appealed that as I'm not the owner.
Council asked me who the owner was and I told them to find out from the DVLA.
If/when my friend gets a notice to owner, will the ticket appeal process still have to be gone through as the council has already made an error by wrongly sending me the notice?

BLT_2

Coupon-mad wrote: »

There are 3 stages to a Council PCN appeal and Councils normally just arbitrarily decline at the first hurdle. They like to play a game of bluff and know that some people will just pay after the first refusal.

Good luck, sounds like you have some grounds for formal appeal.

If I were on the panel judging this complaint I would reject it out of hand. The OPs case is based on the fact that she says she checked her watch and she wasn't late back. If the council upheld cases like this and it was advertised they would never get a parking fine paid again :-)

From their perspective it is the OP who is bluffing.

Thats said I hope she or he wins. 50 pound is somewhat excessive for overstaying your welcome by 3 or 4 minutes. This is why I always park in pay as you leave car parks where possible, or set the alarm on my phone to go off 30 minutes before my ticket runs out.