Traffic Wardens

Amanda

My Dad's bigger than yours Nya Nya nya-nya-na

Neil_B

briona wrote: »

As usual, another utterly vile post from an utterly vile poster. You'll be delighted to know that I've reported it to abuse for their perusal.

So did I. i'm very disappointed with the standards on this forum so far.

Post 41 becomes hilarious?

Neil_B

Can we get back to the basics.

i think that many of you have got the gist that I actually spend time assisting people with various appeals. That said, I also actually support enforcement of parking restrictions - they benefit all of us. The problem only occurs when, at various levels and in various ways, enforcers of all kinds act out side the law - to effectively penalise breaches of the law. The dichotomy is obvious.

Sturll opened by making a rather offensive generalised statement about people of a certain profession. It made no sense. Apart from lumping everyone into one category it suggested that the time of year was somehow relevant.

Points made by others have largely been based around - 'why now' and 'why parking'. it isn't rocket science to understand that if we were to expect parking enforcers to avoid their duties because of a holiday (period still unspecified I note) - then we may as well let everything else go.
What will it be? Shoplift if you can get away with it - amnesty if caught? Found in posession of enough drugs to be deemed a supplier - no probs mate keep 'em? - and - and - and - and ---

I've been the victim of a dishonest Council (then) Parking Attendant. After much trauma and a prolonged appeals procedure I won of course! The Council had nothing to say on the matter and he continued to work for them for at least a further 12 months.
Still, today, when I see a CEO I don't pre-judge them at all. No more than I would anyone else. It's not a difficult concept to understand we should not be critical of people about which we know nothing.

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Amanda

Neil B just keeps up the assumption that so long as the law is being enforced to the letter then it is ok!

Well Nazis used to use the phrase 'I was only obeying orders' to justify their unforgivable actions.

Just because it is law doesn't always make it right and enforcing the law stiffly and without human empathy makes any law an a s s!

A parking warden hiding behind a wall, watching somebody technically break the rules where a simple piece of advice to the person would suffice is moronic. However, these gormless robots simply goosestep around, exerting their sad little 'authority' in the form of issuing tickets for the self-satisfaction which it undoubtedly gives them.

A bit like the moronic practice of clamping a car which is then shackled to its spot where supposedly the justification for the clamp was that it was causing an obstruction!? Duh, now the 'obstruction' is permanent until cash can be extorted from the victim of the clamper.

Wouldn't it have made more sense to leave the vehicle so that the driver could drive it away and not be a permanent obstruction?

If a council issues clamps, it cannot be worried about obstruction as clamps cause a car to become an immovable obstruction by their very nature.

mymatebob

sturll wrote: »

No, it means nothing to me if you know the definition of something or not. Go look it up yourself.

I have indeed looked it up and can find no relevant reference

So I ask again - please provide a link.
I am willing to be shown this definition and more than happy to accept it.

Not a trick question just a simple request.
Can you comply?

simpywimpy

Is it allowed for traffic wardens to have photos and car regs of vehicles they want to target for tickets?

After a minor altercation with a traffic warden who was wrongly telling me I was not allowed to park, a friend told me to watch my back as my car reg was read out at the morning meeting as one to get!

mymatebob

Amanda wrote: »

Neil B just keeps up the assumption that so long as the law is being enforced to the letter then it is ok!

Well Nazis used to use the phrase 'I was only obeying orders' to justify their unforgivable actions.

Just because it is law doesn't always make it right and enforcing the law stiffly and without human empathy makes any law an a s s!

A parking warden hiding behind a wall, watching somebody technically break the rules where a simple piece of advice to the person would suffice is moronic. However, these gormless robots simply goosestep around, exerting their sad little 'authority' in the form of issuing tickets for the self-satisfaction which it undoubtedly gives them.

A bit like the moronic practice of clamping a car which is then shackled to its spot where supposedly the justification for the clamp was that it was causing an obstruction!? Duh, now the 'obstruction' is permanent until cash can be extorted from the victim of the clamper.

Wouldn't it have made more sense to leave the vehicle so that the driver could drive it away and not be a permanent obstruction?


If a council issues clamps, it cannot be worried about obstruction as clamps cause a car to become an immovable obstruction by their very nature.

I'll be honest - I have never seen any parking attendant, traffic warden or similar goose-stepping anywhere.

Neil_B

Amanda wrote: »

Neil B just keeps up the assumption that so long as the law is being enforced to the letter then it is ok!

Well Nazis used to use the phrase 'I was only obeying orders' to justify their unforgivable actions.

Just because it is law doesn't always make it right and enforcing the law stiffly and without human empathy makes any law an a s s!

A parking warden hiding behind a wall, watching somebody technically break the rules where a simple piece of advice to the person would suffice is moronic. However, these gormless robots simply goosestep around, exerting their sad little 'authority' in the form of issuing tickets for the self-satisfaction which it undoubtedly gives them.

A bit like the moronic practice of clamping a car which is then shackled to its spot where supposedly the justification for the clamp was that it was causing an obstruction!? Duh, now the 'obstruction' is permanent until cash can be extorted from the victim of the clamper.

Wouldn't it have made more sense to leave the vehicle so that the driver could drive it away and not be a permanent obstruction?

If a council issues clamps, it cannot be worried about obstruction as clamps cause a car to become an immovable obstruction by their very nature.

Not a great deal better than your earlier post.

To equate my clearly open minded, non-judgemental thoughts with that of Nazis is extremely offensive. Be careful.

You on the other hand choose to lump all various parking enforcement officers in one judgemental category. How can you do that? It is just so ignorant and err - hasn't it been done before? ---- oh yeah I remember now. So who next and who else? Police officers? Dustbin men? Jews? Muslims? Black people? Asians? Council Tax Officers? The French? Homosexuals? Customs Officers?

Yep, you're right. Curtail them all at Christmas. It makes such sense, LOL.

Neil_B

Oh - and incidentally - which Council do you know of that uses clamping?

Amanda

Neil B has clearly NOT digested the points in my post and made a knee-jerk leftie-style allegation that has somehow now deemed my post to be racist lol!

I suggest Neil B re-visits my post and reads more diligently, line by line in order to get the gist of my argument.

The nut cutlet eating, tree hugging brigade manage to play the race card so well. I guess you're in local politics, Limp (sic) Dem and the sort that advises councils not to put up Christmas lights in case it might offend some religion or other. Your extrapalation of racism from my straightforward point about the blind-stupid enforcement of parking procedure by officials with a poor education in humanity beggar belief! I don't care what race the wardens are, I'm concerned with their blind stupidity.

He says I have equated his 'open minded non judgemental' thoughts with that of Nazis???? (Where did I link YOUR thoughts to Nazis? I was talking about blind adherence to rules however wrong as justified by Nazis claiming obedience to orders, your thoughts weren't even accounted for nor considered in my post!) I think you give your utterances too much weight Neil B if you can take offence so readily. Maybe thats why your type are so willing to take offence on behalf of others so readily (Xmas lights again spring to mind).

Quite simply, a traffic warden or whatever fancy title they are given these days (revenue raising technician probably) can be a moronic slave to an uncompromising set-in-stone list of regulations and rules and blindly enforce every misdemeanour with a penalty, or he can be a human being.

Unfortunately the robotic slavery to the rules and jobsworthyness of the role lends itself so well to the low level of intelligence that seems to be a prerequisite for the post.

"yeah well you've gone a millimeter over the line mate so gotta issue a ticket" "er your time expired 4 seconds ago so got to give you a fine" you know the sort of thing. Blind adherence instead of common sense.

Fortunately I was able to get a proper job.