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BT I-Plate promises to speed up ADSL connections by up to 60%; will it work for you?

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  • DonnyDave
    DonnyDave Posts: 1,579 Forumite
    edited 6 January 2010 at 7:22PM
    kwikbreaks wrote: »
    I mentioned above how to test but we we both typing at the same time. You need to get your router stats - http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/frogstats.php
    Many thanks for your guidance kwikbreaks. I have found the ADSL status page for my modem/router.

    I have no extensions hard wired connected to the master socket. I explained above how I had the extension leads connected and I have now changed this. There is now only one filter which is in the master socket. Into this I have my modem and a double phone adapter, one with 6 metres of extension lead and a telephone and the other with a 3 metre extension lead and a telephone.

    From the few times I have tried it, that is swapping between my previous wiring setup and the new one, the actual rate is now 8096. Downstream attenuation has gone down half a decibel to 30.5dB, upstream is still 14dB.

    Going back to issue of the bell wire, will the bell wires in my extension leads (both of which are on the filtered side) affect by ADSL? A quick test of plugging and unplugging suggests not (or it's certainly neglible).
  • kwikbreaks
    kwikbreaks Posts: 9,187 Forumite
    edited 6 January 2010 at 8:37PM
    > Downstream attenuation has gone down half a decibel to 30.5dB

    Nothing you do is going to make a real difference to the attenuation - it is either just an accuracy issue with the router or just possibly the recent low temperatures have made a tiny difference and flipped the rounding.


    > Going back to issue of the bell wire, will the bell wires in my extension leads (both of which are on the filtered side) affect by ADSL? A quick test of plugging and unplugging suggests not (or it's certainly neglible).

    Bell wires on the phone/audio side of a filter are of no consequence. I maybe didn't read your original description carefully enough - if you have the modem/router plugged in at the master, no hard wired extensions, plug in extensions filtered at the master socket end then that is the optimum setup and no iPlate is needed.

    ====

    I forgot to mention it but with a 30/31dB attenuation you should easily maintain full ADSL sync and with the changed setup should never see it at less than the 8096 you get now. With ADSL2+ http://www.dslzoneuk.net/maxspeed2.php suggests you'd get 10-14MBps but I think you'd exceed that easily as I can get 13Mbps on a good day with 37dB attenuation.
  • DonnyDave
    DonnyDave Posts: 1,579 Forumite
    edited 6 January 2010 at 11:23PM
    kwikbreaks wrote: »
    Bell wires on the phone/audio side of a filter are of no consequence. I maybe didn't read your original description carefully enough - if you have the modem/router plugged in at the master, no hard wired extensions, plug in extensions filtered at the master socket end then that is the optimum setup and no iPlate is needed.
    Thanks again kwikbreaks. :beer:

    I will leave it as it is. Is it best to leave my modem on 24 hours a day for the next few days to increase IP Profile? What IP Profile should I expect with 8096 downstream connection?
  • kwikbreaks
    kwikbreaks Posts: 9,187 Forumite
    There is no need to leave it on 24/7 if you normally switch it off continue to do so.

    Last time I studied the way the BTw system works was nearly 2 years ago when I moved to LLU but then it was taking small changes to the IP profile up to 7 days to happen. You'll move from the 6500 you say was reported yesterday to 7000 and it should stay that way barring nasties like electrical storms or a mishap with the wiring etc.

    Actual peak time speeds delivered depend very much on the ISP and whether they have bought enough centrals (big bits of kit that are the end points from the BTw network located at the ISP data centre) and bandwidth of their own. The biggest cost faced by an ISP is paying BTw for centrals which is why LLU can offer far better performance. A central provides ~ 622Mbps and costs over £1M a year - work out the sums and you'll quickly see that the bandwidth avaialble per customer at the prices charged for ADSL isn't a lot which is why usage is capped and throttled by ISPs reselling the BTw product.
  • jem16
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    I have just had O2 BB connected and need some help before removing wires. Tests done in master socket and then test socket show I can get approximately 2Mb more from the test socket.

    I had a quick look at the wiring and it seems to be wired up wrongly. No 5 seems to have the ornage wires and not No 3 - now I have read it doesn't matter as long as the wire/s in No 3 are removed.

    However my problem is that it appears some extensions are wired differently to others as I had to redo some recently.

    One extension comes from the master ( which appears to have Orange/White in No 5) and goes to an extension that I wired as per the normal wiring;

    2 : Blue/White
    3: Orange/White
    5 : White/Blue

    I then ran a wire onto another extension and then onto another.

    All seemed to be working correctly for phones.

    However today I just connected up my micro filters and BB. The first extension I mentioned above works with the micro filter in place. However the next extension coming from that does not work as soon as I attach a micro filter and the same thing happens with the next one.

    I know the filters are fine having swapped them about as is the phone.

    I also don't know what will happen if I remove the wire from No 3 at the master socket as advised.

    Can anyone help sort this mess out?
  • espresso
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    jem16 wrote: »
    I have just had O2 BB connected and need some help before removing wires. Tests done in master socket and then test socket show I can get approximately 2Mb more from the test socket.

    I had a quick look at the wiring and it seems to be wired up wrongly. No 5 seems to have the ornage wires and not No 3 - now I have read it doesn't matter as long as the wire/s in No 3 are removed.

    However my problem is that it appears some extensions are wired differently to others as I had to redo some recently.

    One extension comes from the master ( which appears to have Orange/White in No 5) and goes to an extension that I wired as per the normal wiring;

    2 : Blue/White
    3: Orange/White
    5 : White/Blue

    I then ran a wire onto another extension and then onto another.

    All seemed to be working correctly for phones.

    However today I just connected up my micro filters and BB. The first extension I mentioned above works with the micro filter in place. However the next extension coming from that does not work as soon as I attach a micro filter and the same thing happens with the next one.

    I know the filters are fine having swapped them about as is the phone.

    I also don't know what will happen if I remove the wire from No 3 at the master socket as advised.

    Can anyone help sort this mess out?

    Remove the wire connected to terminal 3 at the master - it is not required.

    The colours used for the extension wiring are irrelevant but 2 on the master needs to be connected to 2 on all of the extension sockets and likewise for 5.

    That's it!
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  • jem16
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    espresso wrote: »
    The colours used for the extension wiring are irrelevant but 2 on the master needs to be connected to 2 on all of the extension sockets and likewise for 5.

    That's the problem I believe.

    The master socket has orange/white into 5 - however I wired up the extension and put orange/white into 3 so this extension is obviously wrong yet it works - or at least the Sky box connected to it says it's connected.

    However the two extensions that follow on from this will not work with the micro filter but do work without it.

    Any ideas why?
  • espresso
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    jem16 wrote: »
    That's the problem I believe.

    The master socket has orange/white into 5 - however I wired up the extension and put orange/white into 3 so this extension is obviously wrong yet it works - or at least the Sky box connected to it says it's connected.

    However the two extensions that follow on from this will not work with the micro filter but do work without it.

    Any ideas why?

    Because you have crossed the pair.

    Master 5
    Ext 2
    Ext 2
    Ext 2
    Master 2
    Ext 5
    Ext 5
    Ext 5

    Should be
    Master 2
    Ext 2
    Ext 2
    Ext 2
    Master 5
    Ext 5
    Ext 5
    Ext 5

    If your extension wiring is correct simply re-terminate the master to first extension wiring to correct the crossover. ADSL will work with only one leg connected but speech won't.
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  • DonnyDave
    DonnyDave Posts: 1,579 Forumite
    jem16 wrote: »
    The master socket has orange/white into 5 - however I wired up the extension and put orange/white into 3 so this extension is obviously wrong yet it works - or at least the Sky box connected to it says it's connected.
    From what you describe, I would go round the hourse and swap all the wiring in each socket so that they are all wired correctly. That way you know that they will all work to their optimum.
  • jem16
    jem16 Posts: 19,612 Forumite
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    espresso wrote: »
    Because you have crossed the pair.

    Master 5
    Ext 2
    Ext 2
    Ext 2
    Master 2
    Ext 5
    Ext 5
    Ext 5

    Should be
    Master 2
    Ext 2
    Ext 2
    Ext 2
    Master 5
    Ext 5
    Ext 5
    Ext 5

    If your extension wiring is correct simply re-terminate the master to first extension wiring to correct the crossover. ADSL will work with only one leg connected but speech won't.

    Problem is that there are 3 extension wires at the master socket ( I know there should not be but there is). I either have to figure out which is the one I want and transpose them as you suggest or rewire the 3 extensions.

    Blooming nuisance!

    Why does the phone work with no filter but not when there is?
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