MSE Parent Club - Part 2

poodlehorse

carol9uk wrote: »

forgot to say am BF, hes also got a cold as well so that does not help, whats the baby whisperer technique/

Right well she says (and this is from memory as I gave the book to a friend so if I get this wrong people correct me) that if you know there is nothing wrong eg nappy, too cold etc then it can just be a habit that they wake or indeed a need for attention. All people wake several times a night but the trick is to get them to go back down, so assuming LO isn't hungry or anything else then when he wakes you go in and pick him up without talking and making eye contact and put him back down. You just basically keep doing this, you aren't ignoring them as you are going in but the message is clear, it is time for sleep and not play or food or anything else. It does work but with some kids who are very stubborn or the habit is well entrenched it can take a while. I found with DS it worked really quickly and he is as stubborn as they come but we did this right from the start. If he has a cold of course that can put everything off. In fact if he has a cold I would definitely wait for that to pass before weaning. Get him on an even keel first.
Good luck

Sami_Bee

Good luck poodle!

Carol: I think its the case that b/f babies don't sleep through as quickly but I may be wrong there! I wouldn't rush to wean unless you really feel its the right time.
I think I started giving the odd spoonful around 5 months but Chris didn't sleep through from 7 - 7 until he was about 8 months I think but possibly later and certainly not when he was having a growth spurt or teething.
Do you think your wanting him to sleep through because you are tired? I'm just thinking that maybe getting OH to give a bottle of breast milk so you get a break may be the way to go.

SusanC_2

Agutka wrote: »

Speaking of which, they don't give us medised anymore! Grrrr. I feel guilty about even wanting it now

We just found out about this. We've been merrily buying it from the pharmacy over the road but then OH tried to buy it at Tesco and they wouldn't let him. I was really worried that we'd been giving Alice something really bad but when I googled I found out that it is just because some people don't read the directions and combine things together which they shouldn't and little ones are more at risk of OD because they're small.

Agutka wrote: »

Do babies understand little differences - like you can play with this book but I'll shout if you play with that book? Or you can touch the telly but don't press buttons? I know my dog has to get everything in black or white, but surely babies are smarter than that?

Alice has her own bookshelf with her books on. She doesn't take other books unless they are out except for the tea card albums which I had to move to an out of reach shelf because she kept geting them out. I guess being small and having lot's of pictures she thought they were hers. So she does know to a certain extent but it's not 100%.

carol9uk wrote: »

hi all, ive got another question/advice. thinking of starting my son on baby rice from next week when he will be five months, as other babies hes age as sleeping through from 7/8 and he doesnt its more like 11. he is also watching everyone when we eat. i know the lastest advice is 6 months and was going to wait but OH wants to start. when did everyones little bundles start??
thanks

I started at seven months but would have started earlier if I'd thought it necessary. Does he seem hungry generally or is it just that you want him to sleep through? I believe studies have shown that introduction of solids doesn't make any difference to when they sleep through.

If you're able to express I concur with Sami's suggestion - that's what we always did.

Agutka

Daphne, dear, don't be silly. As the advice goes, have a read of the pregnancy secrets thread, pregnancy club, or my very own diary I kept weekly about my pregnancy woes.
Nah, it couldn't have been THAT bad... It is so funny how we forget. I look at all these ickle babies and think how lovely it would be to have one of those again :rotfl:. I knew there was a good reason why my brain got fried back in 2007! (pregnancy brain still not back to normal btw much to hubbys amusement/despair).

But yes, I am hoping to go there again as soon as I lose the weight :rolleyes2 :whistle:. Yes, any minute now .

And thank you guys, now I don't feel guilty about lying to a pharmacist when I get the chance. I like medised for all the right and wrong reasons.

How could anyone not want another Joseph?:smileyhea

Savvy_Sue

poodle, we do have a loooong thread about potty training, you might find a read of that helpful.

I am sure it will reassure you that you are not alone.

Personally I wouldn't want a child sitting for as long as an hour, but if you haven't yet tried star charts, that might be worthwhile. Star just for sitting (maybe while you sit too?), two for sitting and pushing, and veritable fireworks if something comes out in the right place!

Becles

Poodle - have you tried just ignoring the poo problem? He might be playing games and witholding poo, just because he has your full attention while he's holding one in. I had similar trouble with my eldest son and ignoring it helped. It'll all come out when it's ready! Make sure he has plenty fibre to help things along, and a bit of prune juice mixed into normal juice, yoghurt etc., can work wonders

I think babies do understand what is right and what is wrong from an early age. Charlotte knows she can look at her board books by herself, but she's only allowed books with paper pages under supervision.

She also had a tantrum because I told her off and she ripped a magazine I'd been looking at. It was only the free one from the local council, but there was pure defiance on her face when she did it - little monkey!

Weaning - I started Charlotte on solids from 5 months. I think gut instinct holds more water than official guidelines to be honest. If you feel baby is ready, just try a couple of spoons of baby rice or fruit puree at one feed time, and see how you get on. Charlotte was brightest late afternoon after her sleep, so I was giving her a few spoonfuls then.

nadnad

Carol, I started Oz at 5 months cos he doesn't sleep through the night - he was up every two hours, and the bad news is he's now on 3 meals a day (nearly 7 months) and he still doesn't sleep. I've been readin A LOT about this and it really does appear that extra food does not mean extra sleep.

I then bought Elizabeth Pantley's No cry sleep solution and that did help me to stop feeding him through the night so he doesn't really look for the boob that often (maybe at about 1am and then 5am and thats not bad in my opinion!). But it did not help him sleep through the night.

So now I'm readin Dr Marc Weissbluth's book, Healthy Sleep Happy Child, and its full of interesting biological facts that basically tell me EVERYTHING the No Cry Sleep Solution book said was wrong lol. But i'm trying it his way anyway which is basically let the baby cry it out. I don't like it doing it, but its 7 months now with baby getting very grouchy in the day from lack of sleep and don't know what else to do, - he recently started waking EVERY hour from when i put him down at 6.30/7pm and thats not right. I'll let you know how it goes!

poodlehorse

Done star charts - didn't work, as I say I have done pretty much everything, all the usual common sense stuff anyway. I don't think it is attention seeking and we have certainly also tried ignoring it and that made no difference. Have had a chat with him today as we want to go on holiday at Easter and DS is desperate to swim and I have said that only boys who can use the toilet for poos and keep their pants clean are allowed in the pool (even though I know if I took him he would hold on no bother) and he got a bit emotional but then I said that I would help him by giving him the special medicine and we would both try really hard to get him those two weeks where he could swim every day. He seemed motivated by that so we will see if that works. I guess it is just finding the thing that motivates him while keeping the BM soft so that it passes painlessly.
Thanks for all your suggestions, I do appreciate you bothering to reply. Feel guilty for saying "yeah tried that and it didn't work" but after ten months I am sure you can imagine we have indeed tried all we can think of. If anyone has any inspiration can you PM me as I might not pick it up otherwise. Cheers

izoomzoom

Welcome to the newbies

I am with you GC, no more babies. I don't think I could subject my body to another pregnancy. Three is enough for me, and three children is hard hard work. DH had the snip too, so 'immaculate conception, pregnancy and birth' are the only possibilities :rotfl:

Samantha seems to be well again now, but there were a few weeks a few weeks ago (deliberatly said that twice) where she wasn't. I have only ever bought 1 box of calpol for her, and only used three sachets to date. And I expose her to other children .

She has started walking all over the place now (13m10d) and it is just so cute to watch. DS2 walked at about 14 months but DS1 held off until he was 18m.

DH has gone back home cos his dad was seriously ill and we thought we were going to loose him. He doesn't get back until Xmas morning, and I have the pleasure of a 2.5h drive to Gatwick to pick him up ... leaving at 6am with 3 children in the car :rolleyes: .

Bailey - if you put vaseline on Molly's nose, it will make it much easier for the dried on snot to be cleaned off .

My AF stayed away until Samantha was 8m old. I am still BF but it choose to return on a weekend when I was away camping and 10 miles away from the closest shops :mad: .

Anyway, hope you all have a lovely Xmas if I don't come back on before then :santa2:

izoomzoom

Sorry I seemed to have missed the last page

Anyhow my 2p worth ... solids - I would hold off solids for as long as possible. Starting Samantha at 6m was so much easier - no pureeing, just mashed up food or even hand size piece (google baby led weaning). Also how many calories do you think there are in a teaspoon of carrot or rice ... absolutely none compared to milk.

Regarding the poo situation ... do you think your child is constipated. Are his poos (small and) hard, does he have tummy pains ???? If you are giving him a balanced diet with lots of fibre than I don't think that 2 days is unreasonable between poos ?