Overcrowding laws?

chocs2010

before you all have a go at me why dont you take a look at the sun newspaper about the dole couple with the 9 children who rake in 42k a year in benefits{thats more then what my partner earns in a year but he stills goes to work}we are a young family doing our best so please stop knocking us for it

GracieP

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

If it's generating a surplus (profit), how is it subsidised by the taxpayer?

Opportunity cost. The assets are far more valuable than the profits. Don't get me wrong, I am massively in favour of social housing. I would hate to live in a country without it, there needs to be a safety net for those who need it or those who can use it as a type of breathing room which allows them to improve their situation. But that's all it should be, people who don't need that housing shouldn't be looking to it as a permanent housing solution because ultimately someone else has to subsidise it.

chocs2010

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Your choice, completely. But perhaps that £50 a week or so could help with housing now?

if we was to private rent i dont think £50 would go that far and we honestly cant afford it,do you really think we would still be in our 1 bedroom flat if we could

Wee_Willy_Harris

GracieP wrote: »

Opportunity cost. The assets are far more valuable than the profits. Don't get me wrong, I am massively in favour of social housing. I would hate to live in a country without it, there needs to be a safety net for those who need it or those who can use it as a type of breathing room which allows them to improve their situation. But that's all it should be, people who don't need that housing shouldn't be looking to it as a permanent housing solution because ultimately someone else has to subsidise it.

Of course, you don't factor in the subsidy social houisng is providing TO the taxpayer in the shape of much reduced HB payments on their affordable rent.

pingu2209

GracieP wrote: »

I'm sorry but what do you think subsidised housing is? It's a handout. I really don't see the difference between someone on the dole in private housing and someone who works but lives in state subsidised housing. Both are a cost to the state and ultimately come from the pockets of taxpayers.

People who are delaying or limiting the families they have because they can only afford a certain type of housing are going to be annoyed with someone who chooses to introduce more children into an over-crowded situation. Then tries to use that as an excuse to get better subsidised housing. Especially when they possibly could afford more for themselves if they weren't subsidising housing which they will never avail of. As you do seem to have issues with certain people on the dole surely it's not a big leap to see why some people would have an issue with people in council houses.

My thoughts exactly.

Why should anyone help you move to a bigger property when you knowingly had a third child in a 1 bed flat? Seriously, what on earth were you thinking?

You decided to have yet more children, stop complaining about your housing situation and just live with the over crowding situation, which is totally the consequence of your own decision.

A young couple in their 20s who buy a 1 bed flat with a mortgage would not get any help towards larger housing when they want to start or increase their family - why should you?

Wee_Willy_Harris

pingu2209 wrote: »

My thoughts exactly.

Why should anyone help you move to a bigger property when you knowingly had a third child in a 1 bed flat? Seriously, what on earth were you thinking?

You decided to have yet more children, stop complaining about your housing situation and just live with the over crowding situation, which is totally the consequence of your own decision.

A young couple in their 20s who buy a 1 bed flat with a mortgage would not get any help towards larger housing when they want to start or increase their family - why should you?

The same help would be available to them. Why should they not access the assistance they are entitled to?

Wee_Willy_Harris

chocs2010 wrote: »

we have been told by our housing officer for the last 5 years that it wont be long before we get moved so when i was pregnant i didnt think we would still be in 1 bed flat,we cant rent privately as we cant afford it{even i was to use cb and tax credits towards rent}

Then stop listening to your housing ifficer. If they haven't delivered on their "promises" in the last 5 years, it is unliklely that they will do so in the next 5 years.

Your housing provider will have published and freely available policies on allocations, priorities, exchanges etc which, once read and understood, will make clear the options open to you, what you can do to access those options and their responsibility to assist. I would suggest that you find these documents, then read and FULLY understand how they apply to your current circumstances.

chocs2010

:Ai would like to say a big thankyou to everyone for all your comments{good and bad}however i dont think this is the right place for us to get the advice we need so thanks again and goodbye:A

GracieP

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

Of course, you don't factor in the subsidy social houisng is providing TO the taxpayer in the shape of much reduced HB payments on their affordable rent.

Just because one subsidy may cost less than a different subsidy it doesn't stop the first one from being a subsidy. They are all a cost to the taxpayer.

Wee_Willy_Harris

You have to want the advice.