Overcrowding laws?

Justicia

chocs2010 wrote: »

how do i know its safe to share this information?

You are only being asked to name your local authority - not likely to be information that you can be traced from, is it?

As suggested before, if you don't want to publish it on the forum, PM it to him...

neverdespairgirl

chocs2010 wrote: »

my children are very much looked after so please dont assume that money would be better off not going into there bank accounts for when they are older,child tax credit goes towards clothes they need,after school clubs and fun days out to legoland:):)

Your choice, completely. But perhaps that £50 a week or so could help with housing now?

neverdespairgirl

mufi wrote: »

However, having been presented with this fait a complis, I can only assume that those suggesting the OP saunters gaily back to work have never had three children, particularly when one of them is only 6 weeks old.

I've only had 1 child, but I wasn't out pounding the streets for work when he was 6 weeks old!

neverdespairgirl

Mum_of_3 wrote: »

I'll share mine if you share yours My local council is........... Mendip, which means that I live in Somerset (no I don't drinnk cider or listen to the Wurzels )

I'll add to it - mine is Camden (London)

GracieP

chocs2010 wrote: »

we dont get handouts from the state:(

I'm sorry but what do you think subsidised housing is? It's a handout. I really don't see the difference between someone on the dole in private housing and someone who works but lives in state subsidised housing. Both are a cost to the state and ultimately come from the pockets of taxpayers.

People who are delaying or limiting the families they have because they can only afford a certain type of housing are going to be annoyed with someone who chooses to introduce more children into an over-crowded situation. Then tries to use that as an excuse to get better subsidised housing. Especially when they possibly could afford more for themselves if they weren't subsidising housing which they will never avail of. As you do seem to have issues with certain people on the dole surely it's not a big leap to see why some people would have an issue with people in council houses.

Wee_Willy_Harris

GracieP wrote: »

I'm sorry but what do you think subsidised housing is? It's a handout. I really don't see the difference between someone on the dole in private housing and someone who works but lives in state subsidised housing. Both are a cost to the state and ultimately come from the pockets of taxpayers.

People who are delaying or limiting the families they have because they can only afford a certain type of housing are going to be annoyed with someone who chooses to introduce more children into an over-crowded situation. Then tries to use that as an excuse to get better subsidised housing. Especially when they possibly could afford more for themselves if they weren't subsidising housing which they will never avail of. As you do seem to have issues with certain people on the dole surely it's not a big leap to see why some people would have an issue with people in council houses.

You need to understand the subtle difference between "affordable" and "subsidised".

GracieP

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

You need to understand the subtle difference between "affordable" and "subsidised".

The either way it's subsidised. LA housing, affordable housing, zero interest loans, any state scheme which allows a beneficiary to pay less than market rates has to be subsidised by taxpayers.

I don't have any problem who choose to live in subsidised housing but it's a payoff. Cheaper than market rates = limited choice and long waiting lists. Choice of housing and speed of movement = paying market rates. Either accept that or not, choosing to have more children in the hope of getting a leg-up is trying to have the best of both worlds.

millym

chocs2010 wrote: »

i do like everyone else get child benefit that goes into my childrens bank account to give them a better start in life then what i had,i also like everyone else get child tax credit.can i please remind everyone this was not about what income i have but about 2 adults and 3 children in a very small 1 bedroom flat looking for advice:)

OP, do sympathise with you, but you must realise that your situation is of your own making. You chose to have 3 children while in a 1 bed flat. You choose to bank your benefits rather than use the money towards obtaining a larger property.

A relative of mine has 3 very young children (all under 2), so they gave up their 1 bed council flat and moved into a 3 bed private let. They work full time and get the same benefits as you, but are not able to save as their income goes on rent etc.

They freed up a 1 bed flat to be let to suitable tenants.

My husband and I have no choice but to live on benefits and rent privately as it may be years/never before we are offered social housing.

You say you are saving your CB to give your children a better start, but surely a better start would be living in more suitable accomodation?

I'm sorry to sound harsh, but if you have the financial means to rent privately then I don't see why you would continue to live in intolerable conditions. Plus you would be freeing up a 1 bed property for someone who desperately needs it.

Best wishes
millym

Wee_Willy_Harris

GracieP wrote: »

The either way it's subsidised. LA housing, affordable housing, zero interest loans, any state scheme which allows a beneficiary to pay less than market rates has to be subsidised by taxpayers.

If it's generating a surplus (profit), how is it subsidised by the taxpayer?

chocs2010

millym wrote: »

OP, do sympathise with you, but you must realise that your situation is of your own making. You chose to have 3 children while in a 1 bed flat. You choose to bank your benefits rather than use the money towards obtaining a larger property.

A relative of mine has 3 very young children (all under 2), so they gave up their 1 bed council flat and moved into a 3 bed private let. They work full time and get the same benefits as you, but are not able to save as their income goes on rent etc.

They freed up a 1 bed flat to be let to suitable tenants.

My husband and I have no choice but to live on benefits and rent privately as it may be years/never before we are offered social housing.

You say you are saving your CB to give your children a better start, but surely a better start would be living in more suitable accomodation?

I'm sorry to sound harsh, but if you have the financial means to rent privately then I don't see why you would continue to live in intolerable conditions. Plus you would be freeing up a 1 bed property for someone who desperately needs it.

Best wishes
millym

we have been told by our housing officer for the last 5 years that it wont be long before we get moved so when i was pregnant i didnt think we would still be in 1 bed flat,we cant rent privately as we cant afford it{even i was to use cb and tax credits towards rent}