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TorrestheGreat

Inactive wrote: »

Thank you, another member that cannot have a debate without resorting to insults.


The place seems to be littered with them just recently.:rolleyes:

you love it, thats why you provoke people in that way. All of your discussions end up this way because you are pretending to be socially inept, arrogant and tactless.

Cat695

TorrestheGreat wrote: »

you love it, thats why you provoke people in that way. All of your discussions end up this way because you are pretending to be socially inept, arrogant and tactless.

Glad i'm not the only one that sees what this guy does

aliEnRIK

Cat695 wrote: »

Glad i'm not the only one that sees what this guy does

If thats true how come the mods dont ban him??
The forums im used to hed be banned for a week. Then if he continues a month, or if persistant just ban him completely

Marty_J

aliEnRIK wrote: »

I right here at my house ahve an absoluetly awesome piece of hifi kit which without a shadow of a doubt sounds way better thanthe inferior leads. And I know this because ive tested them Bass is tighter and actually SOUNDs like a bass, treble is sweet and atriculate and the amount of detal you can hear is astonishing. I know nothing of James Randi but Id just pop him off to see Mr Russ Andrews himself who has disproved many a peoples theories. If these cables didnt work then surely paople would sit at home and think ~ well THAT wasnt money well spent! Never buy them again and they company goes bust. I never EVER expected people to pay for THAT RGB scart cable ~ I was simply pointing out that they exist. Mains cables range from kettle leads for free to solid silver at 1500 quid (probably more, I wouldnt like to put a top limit)

Its why the HIGH hi fi manufactureres dont even supply mains cables with their products as noone in their right minds woud buy a 400 + pounds amplifier and connect it with a rubbish kettle lead. That would be nuts.

NOONE on here can disrepute my claims as I know for a FACT that they work. Instead of pulling out of your head what you THINK you know why not show me some hard cold FACTS

As for burning in your quite wrong. SOME cablesare in fact better when first bought and go WORSE due to burning in. These are rubbish cables that I wouldnt touch with a barge pole.

Now please ~ come up with some 'facts' first as youve obviously pulled all that off the top of your head. You THINK you know what your talking about but so obviously do not.

What an unbelieveable forum this is, I was actually expecting it to have nice people on and all it has are people who THINK they know it all when in fact they know absolutely nothing. A 'little' knowledge and they think they know everything.......

clever :rolleyes:

And for the record ~ I actually used to think cables made no difference either till I went ahead and started experimenting with them. Ive even made some of my own up with highly postitive results.

and that 10db part? peeerleeaze
What the hell has that got to do with something looking or sounding better? Do you think a clock radio sounds no better than a 1000 pound hifi? No it wont make the SLIGHTEST difference (To most peoples ears). Why do tvs range in price? You can get the exact same specs from the exact same manufactureres with like 3 grand inbetween them. So why pay the differnce? Because the one costing 3 grand more is without a shadow of a doubt WAAAAY better picture quality. Due to the components inside they use.

As for the copper to the house. I used to think the exact same thing. Its to do with CONDITIONING the electricity before it enters the hardware (tv, amp, whatever)

You people defy belief :T

Now please ~ whoever is the next person to shout me down get some facts first

You see, the problem is that I asked for specific facts to back up your assertions, and you are totally unable to provide any, which is unsurprising, as they don't exist. Just saying you know something is a fact is not good enough. And then you have the nerve to say that I need to get some facts?

It is not good enough to say "I tried these cables and they are way better than my old ones, so I know they make a difference". The human auditory system is a complicated thing, and has a habit of tricking us into thinking that something is better when in fact it is no different. Now, this happens to everyone, so it's nothing to be ashamed of. But it is something one should always consider.

People consistently fail to spot any difference between cheap power leads and expensive ones, or brands of speaker cables, or cables that have been burnt in versus one that haven't in double blind ABX tests. Even people who champion such things are unable to tell the difference. The difference only exists in their imagination when they know the expensive piece of kit is being used. When they don't know what is being used, they can't tell the difference. That's why the manufacturers of such things claim that ABX testing is "flawed"; because they "know" they're right, so science must be wrong. Ego anyone?

So when there's no scientific reason why there should be a difference, and no one can actually hear any difference, I'm afraid I'm going to have to call bull$hit.

And I'll keep saying that until someone proves otherwise. But saying that you know something is a fact, when you are totally unable to substantiate it is what I call "an opinion".

Marty_J

PROLIANT wrote: »

Addendum;
Have a look at this link;
http://www.pearcable.com/sub_cable_design.htm

Oh dear, Pear Cables!

The CEO of Pear Cables recently backed out of an opportunity to take James Randi up on his $1,000,000 challenge to prove his cables were any better than Monster cables:

http://www.randi.org/joom/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=102&Itemid=27

He had a chance to prove to the world how good his cables are, and get himself $1,000,000, and he decided not to take it. Could it be that once he was inevitably shown to be a charlatan, he might have had a bit of bother flogging his $7,250 cables to gullible fools?

Moneymaker

What you really need to improve your audio and tighten up your bASS is a Gold plated UK mains lead with 50 Amp gold-plated fuse, as shown here:
http://www.glodark.com/audio/unique.htm

Inactive

TorrestheGreat wrote: »

you love it, thats why you provoke people in that way. All of your discussions end up this way because you are pretending to be socially inept, arrogant and tactless.

I spot yet another troll.:rolleyes:

Inactive

Marty_J wrote: »

Oh dear, Pear Cables!

The CEO of Pear Cables recently backed out of an opportunity to take James Randi up on his $1,000,000 challenge to prove his cables were any better than Monster cables:

http://www.randi.org/joom/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=102&Itemid=27

He had a chance to prove to the world how good his cables are, and get himself $1,000,000, and he decided not to take it. Could it be that once he was inevitably shown to be a charlatan, he might have had a bit of bother flogging his $7,250 cables to gullible fools?

Spot on.:T

aliEnRIK

ah whatever

I really cant be bothered

You will forever have an inferior setup ~ no skin of my nose..........

aliEnRIK

Marty_J wrote: »

You see, the problem is that I asked for specific facts to back up your assertions, and you are totally unable to provide any, which is unsurprising, as they don't exist. Just saying you know something is a fact is not good enough. And then you have the nerve to say that I need to get some facts?

It is not good enough to say "I tried these cables and they are way better than my old ones, so I know they make a difference". The human auditory system is a complicated thing, and has a habit of tricking us into thinking that something is better when in fact it is no different. Now, this happens to everyone, so it's nothing to be ashamed of. But it is something one should always consider.

People consistently fail to spot any difference between cheap power leads and expensive ones, or brands of speaker cables, or cables that have been burnt in versus one that haven't in double blind ABX tests. Even people who champion such things are unable to tell the difference. The difference only exists in their imagination when they know the expensive piece of kit is being used. When they don't know what is being used, they can't tell the difference. That's why the manufacturers of such things claim that ABX testing is "flawed"; because they "know" they're right, so science must be wrong. Ego anyone?

So when there's no scientific reason why there should be a difference, and no one can actually hear any difference, I'm afraid I'm going to have to call bull$hit.

And I'll keep saying that until someone proves otherwise. But saying that you know something is a fact, when you are totally unable to substantiate it is what I call "an opinion".

Your quite happily invited to come over and Ill show you
Thats no word of a lie, if your willing to travel to farington in the North West then your happily invited to come along and I'll prove to your eyes and ears what you seem so positive to shout me down on. Care to take me up on this?
Bring a cheap kettle lead with you and whatever hdmi cable you use. We shall plug them in first and run a few test discs. Then I'll plug my mains cable in to prove that kettle leads are rubbish. Then I'll put my hdmi back in run the same tests and watch your jaw drop
I cant see any other way of PROVING what I say as most people will slag off anything thats pulled up off the net as theyre so 'SET IN THEIR WAYS'

My dad has a pioneer tv but the old style (no hdmi)
Theres ONE main bloke who repairs them in the North West region that pioneer hire. He said without reservation that my dads tv picture quality was by FAR the best he had ever seen and was highly intrigued as to how that could be as hed seen hundreds of the same model.
I know why, my dad knows why and the service bloke now knows why. You sir will probably never know why...........