Housing for pregnant 17 year old

PasturesNew

bubblesmoney wrote: »

11k starting for barristers. i thought it would be 50k+ start at least and that most barristers earn well over 100k. or is it that what u mentioned is something like a basic pay and rest is incentives etc for work intensity / number of cases dealt with etc like many people in sales etc have. just curious as was shocked to hear about the starting salary for barristers

My sister's bf was a barrister. As I understood it, at the time, so we're talking mid-late 80s here, traditionally barristers were supported by family money and went to the bar and didn't actually need the money.

So low starting pay will have grown out of that.

C_Ronaldo

OP has the bf found a job yet

shelley_crow

Just my two penny worth, sorry if it's been done before:

Congratulations on your impending grandchild!

Space wise, could you and your wife swap rooms with your daughters? Assuming your room is slightly bigger, this could be an option until your daughter is able to move out? As long as your other daughter has somewhere quiet to study for her exams then this might be an option.

It might not be an ideal situation but c'est la vie. Good luck to your daughter and her fella x

bubblesmoney

PasturesNew wrote: »

My sister's bf was a barrister. As I understood it, at the time, so we're talking mid-late 80s here, traditionally barristers were supported by family money and went to the bar and didn't actually need the money.

So low starting pay will have grown out of that.

what do u mean family money. were they not making a living as barristers?? i always thought barristers and QCs were the highest paid in the legal profession.

~Chameleon~

bubblesmoney wrote: »

what do u mean family money. were they not making a living as barristers?? i always thought barristers and QCs were the highest paid in the legal profession.

http://www.prospects.ac.uk/cms/ShowPage/Home_page/Explore_types_of_jobs/Types_of_Job/p%21eipaL?state=showocc&idno=395&pageno=2

• Typical earnings/receipts for self-employed barristers, before deduction of tax and chambers' charges, range from £25,000 - £150,000 gross within five years of call (salary data collected Feb 07, The UK Legal 500).

• Typical earnings/receipts at senior levels and before deduction of tax and chambers' charges, range from £65,000 - £1,000,000 gross for ten or more years of call (salary data collected Feb 07, the UK Legal 500).

• Top Queen's Counsel (QC) can earn £1,000,000+ per year (salary data collected Feb 07, the UK Legal 500).

• There are huge disparities in annual earnings at the Bar with some criminal law junior barristers earning as little as £50 per day whilst some top commercial sets offer their pupils over £40,000pa. All pupillages are funded unless, in exceptional circumstances, a waiver is granted. Earnings for barristers starting out can be extremely low and there can be a considerable delay between doing the work and receiving remuneration.

krisskross

OP I know you love your daughter and your unborn grandchild but by deciding to have a child together the couple have also decided they are adult. They need to find a place of their own, can your daughter not go and live with the boy friend? I honestly feel you need to take a step backwards and consider the rest of your family, their wishes etc.

We had a very similar scenario with one of our daughters. We had a family meeting without her present where everyone else could have their say. This was my husband and I and her 2 brothers. I was the only one who wanted her to stay at home......the others all thought she had caused enough turmoil. I was really upset by what i thought was their uncaring attitude but they said afterwards that it was tearing the family apart and they thought she was very selfish. she did leave and was only 16, he was an absolute waster but it took her best part of 18months to realise this and extricate herself. Our grand daughter from this unlikely partnership has however brought us nothing but joy.

MrsE_2

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

I've read the whole thread (!) and there's been a lot of good advice offered. However, I have to say that I'm appalled at those posters who've suggested that the OP's parents should be kicked out of their granny flat, either into a couple of upstairs rooms or into sheltered accommodation! What have they done to deserve to have their lives disrupted this way and at their age?
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Fair enough, I was one of the ones who suggested this.

TBH I'm not very close to my mum & I have one child & she is & always will be my baby, even though shes 21 now.
So if it were me, I wouldn't be torn, but I wouldn't have to consider others the way the OP does.

Hes in a difficult spot, at least hes trying.

neverdespairgirl

bubblesmoney wrote: »

:eek: :eek: :eek: 11k starting for barristers. i thought it would be 50k+ start at least and that most barristers earn well over 100k. or is it that what u mentioned is something like a basic pay and rest is incentives etc for work intensity / number of cases dealt with etc like many people in sales etc have. just curious as was shocked to hear about the starting salary for barristers

It's not a salary, or incentives. Barrister start off in pupillage getting a grant for the 1st 6 months and grant / guaranteed earnings for the 2nd 6 months. In 2001 - 2002, when I was a pupil, I got a grant of £3,000 for my first sixth, and £3,000 guaranteed earnings in my 2nd sixth. Pupils now must get a minimum grant of £5k for first sixth.

The £11k I mentioned was my earnings in a year from the time I actually started working in my 2nd 6th. I billed more than that, but receipts are slooooow.

I did my first ever hearing on 6th April 2002. I got a cheque in September 2007, for £60!

There's no way most barristers earn over £100k, I'd have said.

neverdespairgirl

bubblesmoney wrote: »

what do u mean family money. were they not making a living as barristers?? i always thought barristers and QCs were the highest paid in the legal profession.

QCs are the highest paid. The top few in the top-paid areas can earn an absolute packet - there are a few QCs who gross over £2 million a year.

neverdespairgirl

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

• Typical earnings/receipts for self-employed barristers, before deduction of tax and chambers' charges, range from £25,000 - £150,000 gross within five years of call (salary data collected Feb 07, The UK Legal 500).

I think it's a general rule of thumb that you need to knock about 30% off gross receipts for chambers rent, travel, etc.