Hand car wash damage to car

Conor_3

Inactive wrote: »

Under normal circumstances laquer will not lift from the vehicle, it usually only lifts if it has been subject to a poor repair at some time.

Actually during my apprenticeship at a Land Rover dealership, we were told not to put the lance too close to the cars as it could rip off the lacquer. And this was on Range Rovers so hardly a £2.99 Kia Pride with a 50p paint job.

RustyFlange

sturll wrote: »

Your absolutely right.

Apologies for any insults. But lets see how the OP returns.

Thats better .. No insults, it costs nothing to be nice

Conor_3

sturll wrote: »

No, im sat thinking what a knob end you are. When you read my post are you missing the word that says it worked. I dont know nothing about lacquer or how to paint a car but ill guess its hardly rocket science.

Well take it from someone who DOES know about paint and laquer . YOU'RE TALKING OUT YOUR STINK HOLE. Wax cannot replace laquer on a base coat and lacquer paint job. End of.

And no, it's not as easy as you think otherwise everyone would be doing it and there wouldn't be the need for apprenticeships and a City and Guilds/BTEC for it.

Conor_3

RustyFlange wrote: »

AndyMonty I have to disagree, I resprayed an old bike of mine and got a nigh on perfect finish. It was my first time at spraying aswell so it isn't that hard. My dad would agree aswell, he has been spraying cars, chassis and many other things for over 45 years!

Slightly different from spraying a car, matching it in to the existing paintwork, using 2 pack or the new water based paints which are so different to 2 pack and celly that they required a lot of paint shops to have the heating in the spraybooths redone. Let me guess, you were using cellulose or synthetic? Any muppet can use those. Downside is that celly and synthetic have been legislated out so paint suppliers only have what existing stock they have. If they've not got the right colours, you're into the new water based stuff and I can guarantee you won't be painting with that in your garden.

And being base coat and lacquer, there's a high chance it's a metallic paint as well which requires a whole different skillset to make sure you match it properly.

RustyFlange

treaclesponge wrote: »

Perhaps just a lot of people who know what they are talking about who don't want to see someone spend uncessary money on something?
Thank you!

So you had a good teacher then. The OP doesnt necessarily have access to someone with experience to help/show/guide them how to do this correctly. I would say that it would be quite daunting to respray my car, myself with off the shelf equipment.

I understand what you are saying with your first comment about spending unecesary money etc, however it is still cheaper to try. Cut paste/rubbing compound takes a small layer of laquer off cars when used with mops or even by hand. I remember someone I knew had a shed of a sierra in a lovely red colour ... oops I meant pink, he hired a mop and within the hour it was red again so things like this do work.

No I didn't have a good teacher at all ... I taught myself, infact I sprayed my motorbike whilst my dad was out ... used all his equipment and then when he got back i tried to hide the fact I had been spraying and again absolutely agree with off the shelf equipment, the things I were using were all of professional quality.

There is a chance that rubbing compound could work on this but without trying then who knows. However with Wax (something my OH swears by but I have never waxed a car in my life) I wouldn't have personally said it would work but if it has worked for someone then it could work again.

RustyFlange

Conor wrote: »

Slightly different from spraying a car, matching it in to the existing paintwork, using 2 pack or the new water based paints which are so different to 2 pack and celly that they required a lot of paint shops to have the heating in the spraybooths redone. Let me guess, you were using cellulose or synthetic? Any muppet can use those. Downside is that celly and synthetic have been legislated out so paint suppliers only have what existing stock they have. If they've not got the right colours, you're into the new water based stuff and I can guarantee you won't be painting with that in your garden.

And being base coat and lacquer, there's a high chance it's a metallic paint as well which requires a whole different skillset to make sure you match it properly.

Excuse me? are you calling me a muppet? It has been 10 years since I did this, I couldn't tell you what kind of paint I was using as it was excess off one of the hot rods my dad had sprayed. however I do know that both at my fathers place of work and in the garage at home he had spraybooths, the heating in the unit was proper, but for smaller jobs he used industrial heaters which worked just fine.

spm1801

Must be some special wax!!:rotfl: With regard to the insurance, public liability would not cover this damage anyway and I'd doubt that these cheap hand car wash places have insurance for "items worked upon" anyway.

As for you Sturll..... muppet! The Audi dealership must have seen you coming. You must have saved them money by getting it waxed. I doubt very much you had the problem you think you had.

vikingaero

How old is the car and what make and model is it?

Andy_Monty

RustyFlange wrote: »

AndyMonty I have to disagree, I resprayed an old bike of mine and got a nigh on perfect finish. It was my first time at spraying aswell so it isn't that hard. My dad would agree aswell, he has been spraying cars, chassis and many other things for over 45 years!

its ok spraying a bike from scratch i had good efforts on mountain bike frames in the past
but been able to blend the new paint into an existing paint job or laying the flake in the metallic correctly so it matches is a Black Art in my eyes


the only thing with using a rubbing compound on a clear coated car is you will marr the clear coat which will need further work to remove the fine scratches.. and if teh OP's car is down to the colour coat it wont do any good at all..

182_blue

all i can say is sturll's problem could not have been missing chunks of lacquer, its had to be something else, as already said wax simply cant replace lacquer, therefore if the OP has missing chunks of lacquer nothing will help other than more lacquer or paint