Low Carb Diet (atkins)

ames100

gotta admit even though im not a saint and dont post my menus i read the thread religiously and reading the progress and downfalls makes this a more welcome place for those who do slip up. I dont think i could be around saints not being one myself without feeling like my efforts would be comparitivly inferior. As we are all different and approach things in different ways and have different habits etc its good to know there are people here who understand and are fully supportive whether its a light hearted motivational kich up the bum or supportive praise.

dont think i would have been able to loose a stone without you lovely people. and even after my binge im still the same weight yay!!!! so i will be picking myself up and getting right back on track x

sweetserendipity

kissitbetta wrote: »

Charming....

Oh come on kissit, it was meant to be humerous!!
That's the thing about this thread, you get loads of brilliant support & information but no one takes themselves too seriously. Even the bossy ones!!

kissitbetta

Okay so many of you are happy to lapse and be absolved by the other forum members and then have a kindly kick up the 'arris. I still believe I am human and the" there there" approach doesn't sit well with me.

The spikes of insulin you have when you eat the "treats" is damaging both to your metabolism and weight loss efforts.

I only know the Atkins way and am not well versed on the other plans. I do believe that the others are based on a formula that works...

From Atkins site.

This phase of the Atkins Nutritional Approach™ must be followed precisely to achieve success. If you do it at all incorrectly you may prevent weight loss and end up saying, "Here is another weight-loss plan that didn't work."


Eat either three regular-size meals a day or four or five smaller meals. Do not skip meals or go more than six waking hours without eating.

1. Eat liberally of combinations of fat and protein in the form of poultry, fish, shellfish, eggs and red meat, as well as pure, natural fat in the form of butter, mayonnaise, olive oil, safflower, sunflower and other vegetable oils (preferably expeller-pressed or cold-pressed).

2. Eat no more than 20 grams a day of carbohydrate, at least 12 – 15 grams of which must come in the form of salad greens and other vegetables. (see Acceptable Foods).

3. Eat absolutely no fruit, bread, pasta, grains, starchy vegetables or dairy products other than cheese, cream or butter. Do not eat nuts or seeds in the first two weeks. Foods that combine protein and carbohydrates, such as chickpeas, kidney beans and other legumes, are not permitted at this time. If you feel you must eat bread or some other grain product, only high fiber low-carb products with 3 net carbs or less per serving are allowed, and you can eat only one serving a day. Be aware that even that amount may slow or stall your progress, and if that happens, drop the product immediately.

4. Eat nothing that isn't on the Acceptable Foods list. And that means absolutely nothing. Your "just this one taste won't hurt" rationalization is the kiss of failure during this phase of Atkins.

5. Adjust the quantity you eat to suit your appetite, especially as it decreases. When you're hungry, eat the amount that makes you feel satisfied, but not stuffed. When you're not hungry, eat a small controlled carbohydrate snack to accompany your nutritional supplements.

6. Don't assume any food is low in carbohydrate—instead, read labels. Check the carb count (it's on every package) or use a carbohydrate gram counter. Be aware that the law allows manufacturers to round off if a product has fewer than 0.5 grams of any carbohydrate, so that will show up as zero. The only way to detect some fractional carbs is to look for them in the ingredients list, where they must be listed if they’re added to a product, regardless of the amount.

7. Eat out as often as you wish but be on guard for hidden carbs in gravies, sauces and dressings. Gravy is often made with flour or cornstarch, and sugar is sometimes an ingredient in salad dressing.

8. Use sucralose or saccharin as a sweetener. Be sure to count each packet of any of these as 1 gram of carbs, because of the fillers and bulking agents which are added.

9. Avoid too much coffee, tea and soft drinks that contain caffeine. Excessive caffeine has been shown to cause low blood sugar, which can make you crave sugar.

10. Drink at least eight 8-ounce glasses of water each day in addition to anything else you may drink, to hydrate your body, avoid constipation and flush out the by-products of burning fat.

11. If you are constipated, mix a tablespoon or more of psyllium husks in a cup or more of water and drink daily. Or mix ground flaxseed into a shake or sprinkle wheat bran on a salad or vegetables.

12. At a minimum, take a good daily multivitamin with minerals, including potassium, magnesium and calcium, but without iron.


The key being "must be followed precisely". Cheating only cheats yourself and don't nark at me because of this fact. IT WILL NOT WORK if you decide that chocolate cake/glass of wine/little muffin/little bit of this, little bit of that yada, yada, yada is irresistible. You are adults I presume and the inanimate foodstuffs don't put themselves into your mouth.

I despair.

~daisy~_2

sweetserendipity wrote: »

Oh come on kissit, it was meant to be humerous!!
That's the thing about this thread, you get loads of brilliant support & information but no one takes themselves too seriously. Even the bossy ones!!

well youd hop at least .....

havent really got much to add to the discussion really
my take on it is in life theres not really that many of us that are perfect - altho i do think some on here maybe think they might be - so to err is human and and if we cant share our highs and our lows with our lc friends then its a poor show - the main theme of this thread - to me at least - is support - to support each other when we are doing well and when we are having not such good times and slipping up - or even if we just being plain naughty for the sheer bloodymindedness cos life happens to be like that

thats all

sweetserendipity

kissitbetta wrote: »

I despair.

So do I......

~daisy~_2

kissit - did you say this is the second time you have done atkins ? do you mind me asking what happened then for you to stop and how you started eating higher carb food for a time ?? because it reads on here as you cannot possibily understand why some of us fall of the wagon at times or why we feel the need to have some wine or a cake or whatever

unles im reading you wrong - if so my apologies

aliasojo

kissitbetta wrote: »

Okay so many of you are happy to lapse and be absolved by the other forum members and then have a kindly kick up the 'arris. I still believe I am human and the" there there" approach doesn't sit well with me.

The key being "must be followed precisely". Cheating only cheats yourself and don't nark at me because of this fact. IT WILL NOT WORK if you decide that chocolate cake/glass of wine/little muffin/little bit of this, little bit of that yada, yada, yada is irresistible. You are adults I presume and the inanimate foodstuffs don't put themselves into your mouth.

I despair.

You really have no idea just how condescending you are appearing do you?

You are trying to teach your Granny to suck eggs here and I suggest a little less lecturing and a little more humility would win you more friends.

Most of us know all the theory thanks, we dont need lectures on it. It's the putting it into practice we have problems with.

I worried that I was being unfair on you when I replied to your post earlier but I no longer feel that way as you have just put my back up all over again.

HC_2

That was certainly a useful summary, kissitbetta. It's always useful to be reminded.

However, I know what Daisy means. If you're so disciplined, how on earth did you fall so completely off the wagon and get fat again?

kissitbetta

sweetserendipity wrote: »

Oh come on kissit, it was meant to be humerous!!
That's the thing about this thread, you get loads of brilliant support & information but no one takes themselves too seriously. Even the bossy ones!!

Your right it wasn't humorous... it was humerous... a well timed elbow in the kisser under the ha, ha, couldn't resist. :rolleyes:

I have a fab sense of humour and didn't take it personally it was directed. Neither do I take myself seriously. However, as you will see, I do take this plan VERY seriously because it works if done properly. I did think as it was a forum I was entitled to view my concerns an opinions. Perhaps not.

If you wish to :wall: and demonise me that is your choice... I am not going to continue to do so by explaining my reasoning.

kissitbetta

~daisy~ wrote: »

kissit - did you say this is the second time you have done atkins ? do you mind me asking what happened then for you to stop and how you started eating higher carb food for a time ?? because it reads on here as you cannot possibily understand why some of us fall of the wagon at times or why we feel the need to have some wine or a cake or whatever

unles im reading you wrong - if so my apologies

I was doing it all wrong... I stuck to induction forever, didn't gradually increase my carbs, at that time there wasn't half the information and variety there is now so I started to take weekends off and when my cholesterol was high on a routine test put it down to the Atkins being bad, not my poor handling of it.

I used it as an excuse to come off it. Haven't done it for years and every Christmas put on weight that didn't come off in the new year no matter what plan I was trying. Atkins is the only thing that has ever worked and only does so when I stick to it.

I understand falling of the wagon absolutely but it is SO frustrating to hear people say I can't live without this or that. Well if you can't, don't but don't mess with low carb if you aren't doing it in an informed way.