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Bulk LPG - Cheapest suppliers / supply route?

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  • That’s a good price. I think. Flogas has just charged me 33 PPL for a similar volume.
  • bobmac62
    bobmac62 Posts: 65 Forumite
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    Woldlink monthly pricing confirmed at 30.23ppl +5% VAT, down just over 0.5p from December.
  • Moved onto a Flogas metered estate in December, they quoted 62ppl
  • Woldlink monthly pricing for February advised as 29.44ppl + 5% VAT, down by 0.79p from January.
  • collectors
    collectors Posts: 239 Forumite
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    edited 7 February 2019 at 1:11PM
    Hi, about 9 months ago i wanted to go with Woldlink, but as i was a Flogas customer & i could not transfer to them as they buy some of their gas from Flogas. But! things may have changed since then.
    I ended up having to go with calor gas.
    But when this contract is up, i would certainly go to Woldlink because of there up front honesty, reasonable prices & no BS.
    Just have to wait 15 months. lol.
  • Hi All, posted in another thread about tank changes - but in case someone on here can help:

    Apologies for what is a long story but a bit of a plea for help / advise.

    My partner and I recently purchased in September a new build semi detached property (1 of 4) in Staffordshire that is in a remote off gas village. Effectively every house in the village is therefore on LPG external tanks either above or below ground (ours is below the patio at the back of the house and the other three houses are identical).

    The tanks were apparently installed in 2013 before the houses went up and the builder still owns two of the properties and the other two were sold.

    We had an issue this winter with the gas supply pressure fluctuating and tripping out the boiler and effecting the hob.

    Here starts the major problem...

    We call our an engineer to look at the boiler and hob - no issue and it works when the weather is above zero for any sustained period of time - this leads me to inspect the Turret under the patio where the LPG tank and pipe work are as my next guess was a pressure regulator valve freezing up with moisture.... oh dear...

    I am shocked to find that the turret is flooded almost up to the bar on which the regulators are mounted... so call Calor and they say thats definitly not normal and an engineer will come inspect.

    The engineer has discovered that the builder has essentially not put any drainage in around the tank or turret and has also poured a mixture of cement or other grey flakey liquid into the turret (i assume while completing the patio so it seems to be cement / builders rubble or otherwise). This has covered up the serial number / data plate and most of the top of the tank for a thin layer and initially caused the engineer to worry the tank (usually yellow) had corroded!!!... at one point in this inspection we were condemning the tank and getting all the gas pumped out.

    Thankfully he called around and upon scraping a tiny bit of the grey stuff away found yellow underneath it - phew step back from the cliff edge.

    Anyway we are now at a bit of an unknown in terms of where we stand, Calor own the tank and the contents under the turret but the builder (private) is apparently responsible for the back filling and adequate drainage - another interesting fact is that the calor engineer said they've seen a fair bit of this in high water table villages like ours (which they advise against fitting tanks in) and that now they physically watch the tank being backfilled (which they didn't do as part of the process in 2013 when ours went in).

    The builder claims he was told not to put drainage / pea shingle around the tank because it would cause the tank to become a soak away in itself and all in all doesn't seem too concerned. He has also had to have regulators replaced on the tanks on his 2 properties he still owns so I'm not convinced they're not in the same situation, next door certainly are as we've checked with them.

    Given this could be a fundamental water table issue in the winter (there was no water in it in the summer) and Calor's engineer has basically said it will probably be condemned in its current state at its 10 year inspection (2023), we honestly don't know what to do.

    My view (an engineer's but not civil or a drainage expert) is that we could put a pipe into the sewer if the water board permit it (which I hear is unlikely), or move the tank or raise it (not a small task - and don't know who'd cop for this, it looks to me like it needs to be around 5-6inches higher)?
    I don't see more soak aways working if this is a fundamental water table issue?....

    Anyway, long story over, we're hoping calor come back with some paperwork to prove what was and wasn't signed and agreed to at installation but on the off chance - does anyone out there have any similar experience with this kind of issue or suggestions where we could go next?

    Many thanks in advance from a sleepless stressed out bloke.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    If this is indeed a water table issue, then there's only three proper solutions I can think of...

    In ascending order of ballache...

    First would be an above-ground tank, if you have space. Not a thing of beauty, but you quickly get to ignore them.
    Second would be to lift the underground tank a bit, if there's enough room (but would the tank need to be above the water table, or just the regulator?
    Third would be to lift the tank out, sink some kind of impervious bund, then re-site the tank in that.
  • JerryW
    JerryW Posts: 332 Forumite
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    edited 12 February 2019 at 12:36PM
    The tank belongs to Calor and is their responsibility and so they should have signed off the installation as being adequate for their purposes. If it is not, they should correct it. Also there is supposed to have been a visual examination every time the tank is filled, which appears not to have been the case here since the inspection must include reviewing the data plate..
    I was with Calor for twenty years. Their sales team are mainly sharks but the engineers are mostly not and will help if they can.. so make friends with the engineer! Mine not only had the tank replaced and moved, to make it compliant, but replaced all of the underground pipework from it to the house, a serious job. And all free, once the price per litre was sorted out.. don't deal with head office, get someone on site and deal with them instead. Keep asking for people to visit. Don't accept any liability, they are the professionals and they are responsible for the tank.. paperwork may say otherwise but that doesn't mean it is legally correct.
    Good luck, and let us know how you get on.
    If what I said helped you, please "Thank" the relevant post. It cheers me up somewhat..
  • I am in a 2 year fixed contract with Calor. The cost for my LPG is 40p a Litre plus 5% Vat...so 42p a litre inc Vat. I have just spoken to Calor and they said if I was a new customer I would pay 60p a litre if not in a contract and about 50p a litre if i signed up to a contract. I said that I have seen that prices are falling but they said as they are bulk buyers basically the price is set when the buy the gas and store it.
    I have been with Calor for quite a few years and I am really happy with their service and would not want to change supplier. I would rate them as 5 star.....I have had to 'haggle' with them a couple of times over price though and they will do that. I think good customer service is essential as well as a good back up supply of LPG. Hope this helps
  • Hi,
    Does anybody have any idea of LPG prices in NE Scotland? Still out of contract, and would like to stick with JGas but can't get them to discuss. Very frustrating, but not bad enough to go back to Flogas - ever! Tank level at 38%, so thinking of top-up before bad weather hits.

    Thanks, in advance.
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