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Need a shoulder to cry on

mouche
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Hi all...I feel weird posting this on an internet forum but I can't be completely honest anywhere else and I'm just so stressed and worried about the future.
My husband and I moved to the UK 4.5 years ago from India. Yes, we are the dreaded 'immigrants'. My husband came here on a work permit, I came as his dependant. We were both university educated and had several years of work experience before we came to the UK. Also, my husband's profession was and still is on the list of 'shortage occupations', which means there is a shortage of people with the skills and experience to fill these positions in the UK.
The conditions of a work permit at the time meant that you had to have a job offer before you came to the UK and you were only allowed to work for that employer. If you wanted to change employers, you had to pay the Home Office close to £1000 each time. As a dependant I could work for anyone I wanted but my permission to work and stay in the country depends on my husbands.
It was and is a condition of our visa that we have no recourse to public funds so apart from the NHS, we don't qualify for any help from the government. Though of course we pay tax and NI.
My husband has changed jobs several times to better his career and works extremely hard. I have also worked at a good job since the day I got to the UK. We both speak excellent English, have tried hard to integrate and have plenty of British friends. We saw our future in this country and were making plans to buy a house and have a baby.
Then 3 weeks ago my husband was made redundant. Rules for work permits have now changed - it is now a points based system according to which you have to either be in a shortage occupation or you have to have a bachelor's degree. My husband qualifies on points (though he had to give an elementary English test to prove he could communicate in the UK - he's been head of a department in an international organisation for the past 4 years!)
But he has to find a job, get the employer to issue a 'certificate of sponsorship' and apply for the new permit within 28 days or we have to leave the UK. When he applied for jobs (there are thousands of jobs in his field at his level), agents were very enthusiastic about his qualifications and experience but as soon as they realised he needs sponsorship, they backed off. With great difficulty, and after applying for thousands of jobs all over the UK, he has been offered a job. But the job offer is conditional on him being able to join within 4 weeks. The head office of the employer is taking it's time over issuing the certificate of sponsorship and the home office says the absolute minimum time for it to process an application is 3 weeks. So if the head office does not give him the certificate this week, he may lose the job offer and we will have to leave the UK.
Sorry for the long story but I wanted to explain our position thoroughly. I am just so upset and stressed over this situation. I think it's incredible that he has managed to find a job so quickly but to think that it may be for nothing. We've built our lives here, our friends and support circle is here - we don't want to leave. We haven't committed a crime, we have followed every rule and we've done our best to be good citizens (without actually being British citizens).
The thought that we may have to sell our furniture, our lovely new car (secondhand but new for us), abandon our life and get out is just so hard to bear. And depending on how his job application goes, we may have little or no notice to get out.
I know there are no solutions and we just have to hope the visa gets processed in time but I can't go on being strong anymore; I just needed to tell someone. I have told a few close friends but not the whole story because my husband doesn't want me to. I'm at the end of my tether and I would really appreciate some support.
My husband and I moved to the UK 4.5 years ago from India. Yes, we are the dreaded 'immigrants'. My husband came here on a work permit, I came as his dependant. We were both university educated and had several years of work experience before we came to the UK. Also, my husband's profession was and still is on the list of 'shortage occupations', which means there is a shortage of people with the skills and experience to fill these positions in the UK.
The conditions of a work permit at the time meant that you had to have a job offer before you came to the UK and you were only allowed to work for that employer. If you wanted to change employers, you had to pay the Home Office close to £1000 each time. As a dependant I could work for anyone I wanted but my permission to work and stay in the country depends on my husbands.
It was and is a condition of our visa that we have no recourse to public funds so apart from the NHS, we don't qualify for any help from the government. Though of course we pay tax and NI.
My husband has changed jobs several times to better his career and works extremely hard. I have also worked at a good job since the day I got to the UK. We both speak excellent English, have tried hard to integrate and have plenty of British friends. We saw our future in this country and were making plans to buy a house and have a baby.
Then 3 weeks ago my husband was made redundant. Rules for work permits have now changed - it is now a points based system according to which you have to either be in a shortage occupation or you have to have a bachelor's degree. My husband qualifies on points (though he had to give an elementary English test to prove he could communicate in the UK - he's been head of a department in an international organisation for the past 4 years!)
But he has to find a job, get the employer to issue a 'certificate of sponsorship' and apply for the new permit within 28 days or we have to leave the UK. When he applied for jobs (there are thousands of jobs in his field at his level), agents were very enthusiastic about his qualifications and experience but as soon as they realised he needs sponsorship, they backed off. With great difficulty, and after applying for thousands of jobs all over the UK, he has been offered a job. But the job offer is conditional on him being able to join within 4 weeks. The head office of the employer is taking it's time over issuing the certificate of sponsorship and the home office says the absolute minimum time for it to process an application is 3 weeks. So if the head office does not give him the certificate this week, he may lose the job offer and we will have to leave the UK.
Sorry for the long story but I wanted to explain our position thoroughly. I am just so upset and stressed over this situation. I think it's incredible that he has managed to find a job so quickly but to think that it may be for nothing. We've built our lives here, our friends and support circle is here - we don't want to leave. We haven't committed a crime, we have followed every rule and we've done our best to be good citizens (without actually being British citizens).
The thought that we may have to sell our furniture, our lovely new car (secondhand but new for us), abandon our life and get out is just so hard to bear. And depending on how his job application goes, we may have little or no notice to get out.
I know there are no solutions and we just have to hope the visa gets processed in time but I can't go on being strong anymore; I just needed to tell someone. I have told a few close friends but not the whole story because my husband doesn't want me to. I'm at the end of my tether and I would really appreciate some support.
Mortgage (original/ current):193,000 (23/09/11)/ £102,500 (07/11/2019)
2019 Challenges: Make £300 a month: £9.71/£300 (January)
2019 Challenges: Make £300 a month: £9.71/£300 (January)
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Yes, we are the dreaded 'immigrants'
Believe it or not, we don't all have that pre-conception.
Fact is, if someone moves to this country, and WANTS to work and pay their taxes here, the vast majority of the indigenous population will welcome them.
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Has he called the head office and explained the situation - I'd be on the phone today and tell them that he can drive over and pick it up tomorrow so that he can meet his deadline; ask nicely if he can be put to the top of the list. It always pays to call up and be nice to the people who you want to do something for you. It probably wouldn't cross their mind that the delay is that important, so get him to call the right office and do some schmoozing.0
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I'm a "dreaded immigrant" too in a way - I'm EU so don't have the same problems thankfully but get counted as pretty much any UK person (ok I've also been here a tad longer but I still am not a UK citizen on paper).
Take a deep breath, stay calm and stay in contact with immigrations! The one thing that seem to loathe is if you overstay once your visa has expired - as yours is a work visa etc explaining the situation to them and staying on their good side as much as possible is all I can see that you can do for now.
Crossing fingers for youDFW Nerd #025DFW no more! Officially debt free 2017 - now joining the MFW's!
My DFW Diary - blah- mildly funny stuff about my journey0 -
I quite agree with woody01.
It sounds like you've done everything properly in regards to moving here and setting up a life here and for that, I applaud you.
It must be so hard, after settling here and building a life for yourselves here, to have the possibility of it all being taken away from you now looming over your heads. I can only wish you both the best of luck and hope that everything that needs to be done gets done in time.
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you and hope it all works out. Keep us posted!PROUD TO HAVE DEALT WITH MY DEBTS0 -
Thank you so much for your support, all of you! I was half afraid I'd get the 'good riddance' type of response I read in the Daily Mail! So, it means a lot that you've responded.
I've got him to ring Head Office and explain the situation - he got voice mail but he left a detailed message so hopefully they will call back. He's also going to ask the manager who made the job offer to speak to head office - maybe an internal voice will have more effect.Mortgage (original/ current):193,000 (23/09/11)/ £102,500 (07/11/2019)
2019 Challenges: Make £300 a month: £9.71/£300 (January)0 -
Just want to say good luck with everything. But do you know if you do have to go back to India could you return on a holiday visa and then look for a new employer for you husband without this very small time limit?
Just a thought if the worst does happen, as it seems your husband has the right skills/experience to meet the new visa requirements.
If you have a good support network of friends here could they look after you car and other belongings until you return.
I'm no migration expert but it could be that as long as you have left the country you are able re-enter on a new visa almost straight away. Or is there any chance of an extension to allow you to organise yourself to leave?
Good luck and perhaps everything will come in on time, but worth looking at your other options0 -
Thank you so much for your support, all of you! I was half afraid I'd get the 'good riddance' type of response I read in the Daily Mail! So, it means a lot that you've responded.
I used to have a paper delivered and one day they delivered the Daily Mail by mistake. I walked round, gave them the paper back and cancelled my subscription to any more papers - I didn't want to give any more of my hard earned cash to a newsagent who didn't understand what an insult that was.
Get hubby to call after 2:30; the person was probably on lunch - I hope he gets through and can get it sorted today.0 -
sending lots of hugs, and hoping this gets sorted out quickly. xx0
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1. Go and see your MP - he/she may be able to smooth the way. My now husband had his visa renewal refused in the Feb but with the help of the MP was able to stay until circumstances changed.
2. My DH has recently applied for (and got) citizenship. They kept telling us that it would take up to 6 months. In fact it took less than a month. It's complicated with all the immigration stuff, but we learnt not to worry. Despite what you read in the papers, there is a great benefit to allowing good people to stay. Official policy doesn't always read that way and they can be frustrating to deal with.:heartsmil When you find people who not only tolerate your quirks but celebrate them with glad cries of "Me too!" be sure to cherish them. Because these weirdos are your true family.0 -
madmalteaser wrote: »I quite agree with woody01.
It sounds like you've done everything properly in regards to moving here and setting up a life here and for that, I applaud you.
It must be so hard, after settling here and building a life for yourselves here, to have the possibility of it all being taken away from you now looming over your heads. I can only wish you both the best of luck and hope that everything that needs to be done gets done in time.
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you and hope it all works out. Keep us posted!
^^^ What they said
I really hope it gets sorted for you xxxSometimes it's important to work for that pot of gold...But other times it's essential to take time off and to make sure that your most important decision in the day simply consists of choosing which color to slide down on the rainbow...0
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