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If we vote for Brexit what happens
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British carmaking hits a 17-year high in the first quarter 2017:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy-autos-idUKKBN17S35T?il=0In March alone British car makers produced 170,691 vehicles, 7.3 percent more than a year earlier and the highest number for any month since March 2000. This took first quarter output to its highest since 2000 as well, with 471,695 cars manufactured.0 -
A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »Also today, British retail sales expand:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy-retail-idUKKBN17T1C2?il=0
No doubt our friends from Luxembourg, Aberdeen and Fantasy Island, will be along shortly telling us how doom and gloom is just around the corner, like they did nearly a year ago.:rotfl:0 -
I usually buy goods based on factors like quality and price... it's weird, I know...setmefree2 wrote: »I've stopped buying European goods (unless I have no choice)Don't blame me, I voted Remain.0 -
I find this EU stance interesting, the one where they effectively define all the exit terms, including financial redress, before any trade talks.
Suppose this were the approach.
On day 1 of post-Brexit the negotiations on trade commence.
The trade vacuum would clearly hurt, both here and amongst member states.
But...it would be unrealistic to imagine the pain to be evenly shared.
Just how long would it be before one of the weaker states, like Ireland, breaks from this "unified stance" they talk about?
If May is smart, she will target weaker links where she can.
I agree.
I think the ongoing loss of circa 10% of the EU budget has been somewhat underplayed by some. The desperation by the EU side to keep the divorce settlement separate from trade talks smacks of perhaps a not altogether united front on who will pick up the tab when the UK taxpayer is lost to them.
If only they'd not fooked Cameron off big time last year, it could have been oh so different
“Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧0 -
setmefree2 wrote: »Funny you should mention that - the headline in today's
http://www.wort.lu/en/luxembourg/kirchberg-eu-completely-united-ahead-of-brexit-talks-in-luxembourg-5901efdda5e74263e13bd6b5
And Bloomberg says.
After Brexit, Germany’s parliament “supports the principle that the EU should treat Britain no better than, but also no worse than any other third country,” Detlef Seif, a lawmaker in Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union, said in an emailed statement. “We’re also calling for the EU to close ranks and speak with one voice in the negotiations.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/politics/articles/2017-04-26/germany-tightens-screws-on-u-k-in-bundestag-brexit-resolution
The Wort article goes on to say.
In recent days the European Union has hardened its position in the negotiating guidelines for what promise to be difficult talks ahead of Britain's departure from the bloc in March 2019.
It made new demands on Britain's financial services industry, on EU citizens having the right to permanent residence after living in Britain for five years, and on the need for Britain's exit bill to cover the EU's budget up to 2020, a year after Britain leaves.
Juncker stressed the EU's position that Britain must agree on the terms of the divorce, including its exit bill, before talks on any future EU-UK trade deal can start.There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.0 -
And Bloomberg says.
After Brexit, Germany’s parliament “supports the principle that the EU should treat Britain no better than, but also no worse than any other third country,” Detlef Seif, a lawmaker in Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union, said in an emailed statement. “We’re also calling for the EU to close ranks and speak with one voice in the negotiations.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/politics/articles/2017-04-26/germany-tightens-screws-on-u-k-in-bundestag-brexit-resolution
The Wort article goes on to say.
In recent days the European Union has hardened its position in the negotiating guidelines for what promise to be difficult talks ahead of Britain's departure from the bloc in March 2019.
It made new demands on Britain's financial services industry, on EU citizens having the right to permanent residence after living in Britain for five years, and on the need for Britain's exit bill to cover the EU's budget up to 2020, a year after Britain leaves.
Juncker stressed the EU's position that Britain must agree on the terms of the divorce, including its exit bill, before talks on any future EU-UK trade deal can start.
But who decides; who votes?
NOT Juncker.
Note this from less than a week ago:
https://www.thelocal.dk/20170421/denmark-potentially-most-affected-by-brexit-pmThe leaders of the Netherlands, Ireland and Denmark stressed the need for "unity" Friday as the three northern European countries seek to minimise the impact of Britain's divorce from the EU.0 -
mayonnaise wrote: »Another 900 jobs off to the continent. Shame.
Thousands of jobs coming back home to take over the functions previously carried out by the EU.0 -
The Wort article goes on to say.
In recent days the European Union has hardened its position in the negotiating guidelines for what promise to be difficult talks ahead of Britain's departure from the bloc in March 2019.
It made new demands on Britain's financial services industry, on EU citizens having the right to permanent residence after living in Britain for five years, and on the need for Britain's exit bill to cover the EU's budget up to 2020, a year after Britain leaves.
Juncker stressed the EU's position that Britain must agree on the terms of the divorce, including its exit bill, before talks on any future EU-UK trade deal can start.
The good news just keeps on coming. The more they demand, the greater the probability of us walking away, a completely clean break and trade under WTO rules.
It'll be difficult for a couple of years and then we'll fly.If I don't reply to your post,
you're probably on my ignore list.0 -
Turkey is very far from qualifying entry to the EU. Its human rights record is appalling and the way it is presently going will probably make matters worse.
For the purposes of keeping Turkey out, the UK leaving the EU is neither here nor there, because the UK could veto Turkey's membership and stop it from happening in any case. As could any other member country, which they will.
The EU is very exposed as Turkey is the corridor to the East. The EU needs Turkey as an ally. Russia is very much in the wings.0 -
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