If we vote for Brexit what happens

setmefree2

Interesting.

Erdogan has said that Britain's vote to the leave the European Union had give the country "peace of mind" and that Turkey could reconsider its position on joining the bloc.

The Turkish president expressed his frustration at Turkey being kept waiting "for 54 years" to join the EU and the current hostile mentality of some member states towards Ankara.

Mr Erdogan said a decision on Tuesday by the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, a leading human rights body, to put Turkey on a watch list was "entirely political" and Ankara did not recognise the decision.

He said he was ready to take the question of EU accession to a referendum and that Turkey could not wait indefinitely after 54 years at the door.

"If they are not acting sincerely we have to find a way out. Why should we want any longer? We are talking about 54 years," he told Reuters.

"The UK asked her people and they voted for Brexit ... They have peace of mind, they are walking towards a new future, and the same thing was conducted by Norway ... and the same thing can be applied for Turkey too."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/recep-tayyip-erdogan-says-brexit-vote-gave-uk-peace-mind/

Sapphire

He [Erdogan] said he was ready to take the question of EU accession to a referendum and that Turkey could not wait indefinitely after 54 years at the door.

Why on earth would there be a referendum in Turkey on the question, when Turkey has repeatedly been refused accession to the EU?

Most of Turkey is not even in Europe, but in Asia – and there it will stay. (I can well imagine the outrage among populations in continental European countries should Turkey ever be allowed to join the EU by Merkel and her delightful politburo.)

Thank goodness we are leaving…

Quasar

Sapphire wrote: »

He [Erdogan] said he was ready to take the question of EU accession to a referendum and that Turkey could not wait indefinitely after 54 years at the door.

Why on earth would there be a referendum in Turkey on the question, when Turkey has repeatedly been refused accession to the EU?

Most of Turkey is not even in Europe, but in Asia – and there it will stay. (I can well imagine the outrage among populations in continental European countries should Turkey ever be allowed to join the EU by Merkel and her delightful politburo.)

Thank goodness we are leaving…

Turkey is very far from qualifying entry to the EU. Its human rights record is appalling and the way it is presently going will probably make matters worse.

For the purposes of keeping Turkey out, the UK leaving the EU is neither here nor there, because the UK could veto Turkey's membership and stop it from happening in any case. As could any other member country, which they will.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Quasar wrote: »

Turkey is very far from qualifying entry to the EU. Its human rights record is appalling and the way it is presently going will probably make matters worse.

For the purposes of keeping Turkey out, the UK leaving the EU is neither here nor there, because the UK could veto Turkey's membership and stop it from happening in any case. As could any other member country, which they will.

Whilst this is indeed very true, are you ignoring the rather large elephant in this particular room?

What does Turkey want - and how many carrots will the EU need to feed Turkey with?
Hint: FOM for Turks in the EU; and Syrian refugees.


*Disclaimer*
Not intended to be alarmist, just pointing out the facts.

Enterprise_1701C

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Whilst this is indeed very true, are you ignoring the rather large elephant in this particular room?

What does Turkey want - and how many carrots will the EU need to feed Turkey with?
Hint: FOM for Turks in the EU; and Syrian refugees.


*Disclaimer*
Not intended to be alarmist, just pointing out the facts.

That makes one very decisive argument for Brexit on its own.

Don't forget that the ambition of the eu is "ever closer union" which means that their ultimate desire is a massive [STRIKE]germany[/STRIKE] single country with no borders between what used to be individual countries.

I for one would not want to be part of an organisation like that that included Turkey in its current state.

gfplux

It is difficult to understand anyone believing that Turkey could become a member of the EU.
There I have said it. No might be's, no may be's and no they will have to change a lot.

Enterprise_1701C

There is a lot of members of the eu that really should not be members.

What I am afraid of is that the eu are so blindly desperate to expand that they keep changing the criteria for joining. They somehow seem to think that simply joining the eu will change a country for the best. Unfortunately they are wrong, very wrong, and this blind desperation to take over the world is what will be their downfall.

gfplux

Turkey today.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/world/europe/turkey-1000-coup-gulen.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

"ISTANBUL — More than a thousand people, accused of being “secret imams” for an American-based cleric who the authorities have said was responsible for a failed coup in July, were detained in Turkey on Wednesday in the largest such sweep in months.

The civilian detainees are accused of directing police officers also loyal to the cleric, effectively creating a parallel leadership.

Over 9,100 police officers were suspended later in the day because of their alleged links to the movement, Anadolu Agency, a state-run news wire, reported on Wednesday night.

About 45,000 people have already been taken into custody since the coup attempt, but the raids on Wednesday represented the first widespread roundup of political opponents since a referendum on April 16 to expand the powers of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan."

WengerIn

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

There is a lot of members of the eu that really should not be members.

What I am afraid of is that the eu are so blindly desperate to expand that they keep changing the criteria for joining. They somehow seem to think that simply joining the eu will change a country for the best. Unfortunately they are wrong, very wrong, and this blind desperation to take over the world is what will be their downfall.

Specifically which criteria have been changed? I'm not aware of any.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

gfplux wrote: »

It is difficult to understand anyone believing that Turkey could become a member of the EU.
There I have said it. No might be's, no may be's and no they will have to change a lot.

That may indeed be true.
May I politely suggest however that you read the preceding posts?
Because it is not just about Turkey's desire to join the EU per se; there are other things involved.
Just a few of which are described earlier in this thread.