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If we vote for Brexit what happens
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Yes, every day.Every day this thread provides evidence of the glory of the UK.
I'm amazed anyone voted Brexit. Gambling on a game we've already won seems extraordinarily brave or foolhardy.
Which shows the incredible potential too, does it not?
After all, the games we have won do not simply cease to exist and neither do we re-play them.
Given then as you admit that we have indeed won so many, perhaps it is not so much a gamble as confidence in ability.
Why then are you so amazed, I wonder?
The simple answer is that it seems that you would much prefer to be the prisoner "pet" hamster running in his wheel inside a cage, reliant upon whatever tidbits your owner feeds you.
Rather than being a free hamster in his natural habitat making his own choices and decisions, unrestricted by the confines of a cage.
TBH it surprises me how many wished to remain the equivalent of a pet.0 -
No........ we've now got a smaller cage. It's called Westminster!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za2FdWmNMh0&t&utm_content=buffer2b288&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer0 -
Thrugelmir wrote: »The treaty doesn't get passed by QMV though. Instead by Sovereign States and in the case of Belgium separate regional Governments. The UK team represents the UK that's the bottom line. If there's irreconcilable differences of opinion. Then the UK exits without agreement on that topic.Which sort of prooves my point, unless we can negotiate compromise in less than 2 years we get a hard Brexit which will not help UK nor some of the EU.Every day this thread provides evidence of the glory of the UK.
I'm amazed anyone voted Brexit. Gambling on a game we've already won seems extraordinarily brave or foolhardy.
https://www.topuniversities.com/student-info/university-news/brexit-trump-deter-international-students-survey-shows
Two thirds of international students now feel unwelcome in the UK (according to QS, the ranking organisation Jock is so pleased about he had to post the same thing twice, and complain that his effort wasnt recognised).
Well I suppose the only comfort is that as 75% of young people don't actually want Brexit, if an international student does decide they still want to come here to study, they are very unlikely to find themselves sitting next to a Jock in lectures.0 -
An interesting article in The Spectator today:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/04/britain-and-the-eu-can-part-on-good-terms/#There will be huge resistance if anyone does anything to thwart free trade between Britain and the EU0 -
https://www.topuniversities.com/student-info/university-news/brexit-trump-deter-international-students-survey-shows
Two thirds of international students now feel unwelcome in the UK (according to QS, the ranking organisation Jock is so pleased about he had to post the same thing twice, and complain that his effort wasnt recognised).
Well I suppose the only comfort is that as 75% of young people don't actually want Brexit, if an international student does decide they still want to come here to study, they are very unlikely to find themselves sitting next to a Jock in lectures.
Have to wonder how much of how these students feel is down to how the leave vote has been portrayed rather than the attitudes of leave voters themselves.0 -
Britains sheep farmers rejoice as they "reap the rewards of last year's Brexit vote":
https://www.ft.com/content/ee49c318-204c-11e7-b7d3-163f5a7f229cThe fall in the value of the pound has “certainly helped bolster our export position”, said Peter Hardwick, head of exports at the industry body for beef and lamb producers in the UK, AHDB Beef and Lamb.0 -
Well unlike you Jock isn't worried by the scare stories.https://www.topuniversities.com/student-info/university-news/brexit-trump-deter-international-students-survey-shows
Two thirds of international students now feel unwelcome in the UK (according to QS, the ranking organisation Jock is so pleased about he had to post the same thing twice, and complain that his effort wasnt recognised).
Well I suppose the only comfort is that as 75% of young people don't actually want Brexit, if an international student does decide they still want to come here to study, they are very unlikely to find themselves sitting next to a Jock in lectures.
He prefers hard fact.
And he knows just who IS sitting next to him in lectures.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/04/great-brexit-exodus-eu-students-isnt-cracked/What you probably haven’t heard is the good news: universities need not have worried. Yes, it’s true that applications from EU students to the UK did fall last year, from 202,250 down to 187,470. But when you look at the numbers in a bigger context, a different picture forms. In fact, the 187,000 students from the EU who applied to study at British institutions this year is roughly in line with the 190,000 who applied to study in 2015. While if you look a little further back, the number of EU applicants in 2016/ 17 – after the referendum – was actually higher than any time in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014. (Incidentally, the same can’t be said for applications from English students, with the 1.72m applications last year lower than in 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016). Of course, some will say that there’s still been a fall in the number of EU students. And while they are right, this isn’t the first time that British universities have seen the number of applicants from Europe go down. In 2012, the numbers tumbled by 20,000 compared to the year before – a bigger fall than in the most recent round of applications since the Brexit vote. Back then, no one was talking about a looming crisis – and British universities have continued to thrive. Why can’t the same be true now? Not for the first time – and nor for the last time, it seems – Project Fear appears to have been over-egged.
Official figures (though these are always VERY late):
https://institutions.ukcisa.org.uk/Info-for-universities-colleges--schools/Policy-research--statistics/Research--statistics/International-students-in-UK-HE/
BTW did you read your link?
"The report, from UK-based market research agency Red Brick Research, surveyed 219 international students currently studying at UK universities."
219?
Really?
Wow, beyond any doubt conclusive then.0 -
It is down to government policy to attract specific groups IMO, whether it be international students or midwives.
Canada provides an interesting example. They built up a strong reputation in the burgeoning software games industry from relatively nothing by attracting workers from overseas.
It would be down to us to attract students. I've just come back from Cambridge and it pretty clear where the large numbers of students are coming from. The focus is definitely moving to the East.0 -
Just as an aid to those of us truly puzzled by the sometimes obsessively negative nature of pro-remain posts in these forums and elsewhere:
https://reaction.life/brexit-hating-ultra-remainers-making-fools/Europhiles long dismissed Euroscepticism as an ideology that was the reserve of a few obsessive fruitcakes. Well, this proclivity for blaming Brexit for anything and everything is a sign of obsession born from a zealous ideology, pure and simple. The ultra-Remainers doing this need to come to their senses and ditch the tunnel vision, otherwise they will find themselves discredited when they have something worthwhile to say.
Take note Moby et al.
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TrickyTree83 wrote: »Have to wonder how much of how these students feel is down to how the leave vote has been portrayed rather than the attitudes of leave voters themselves.
If you have a vote that basically boils down to getting rid of the bloody foreigners then don't be surprised if the bloody foreigners think you don't want them around.
How big was the rise in racist incidents after the vote again? 40% or something from memory.0
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