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  • In a similar situ 2u. Need to reduce monthly costs from #30 on a Racoon 25 (200 min 300 txt). Orange have offered me a brand new SE W995 FOC and a 18mth contract for #14.67 same mins + txts.

    Is there a catch or is this too good to be true? Anyone out there know anything different.
  • Marty_J
    Marty_J Posts: 6,594 Forumite
    In a similar situ 2u. Need to reduce monthly costs from #30 on a Racoon 25 (200 min 300 txt). Orange have offered me a brand new SE W995 FOC and a 18mth contract for #14.67 same mins + txts.

    Is there a catch or is this too good to be true? Anyone out there know anything different.

    If you like the phone, don't mind staying with Orange for another 18 months, and you'd like to pay half what you're paying now, go for it.
  • marrittm
    marrittm Posts: 272 Forumite
    I have just received the Sony Ericsson c903 didn’t want another touch phone either as I hated the stylus thing, I just wanted a simple phone with a decent camera and some handy extras. have to say this phone has it all for me so far others may disagree but I find it a pretty good phone for the price plan I am paying £24 a month on 3 for 700 minutes to any mobile and landline, and 300 extra minutes to any other 3 mobile plus you have unlimited skype, there may be better offers out there not checked and although 3 customer service is a little hard work at times its worth it to me. Also you can edit your photos with this phone although not done this my self the option is there, and the 5 MP camera is miles better than my old LG viewty which was also a 5 MP. It also has GPS ohh enough of me going on here is the link just take a look.

    http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/c903
  • asininity
    asininity Posts: 1,615 Forumite
    Marty_J wrote: »
    What makes you say that?

    Given that you can buy other phones with multi-touch, I don't think Apple have a monopoly on it.

    I'm saying they'd like to. Then the iphones the only option. IBM and the PC come to mind. Why is it android didn't have it enabled?
    Just off the top of my head, I saw a TV ad earlier for a car insurance company here who have an iPhone app. If you need to make a claim, you can photograph any damage, and submit it along with the rest of your claim directly from your iPhone. It even sets up an online forum for communicating with the other driver. Everyone who's anyone is developing an iPhone app.

    I'm sure you'll reply that such things will come out form Android but that's very easy to say. I guess we'll see what happens.

    Damn right I'm gonna say it. Its an app, not something the iphone can do that android cant. Apps are addons, not integral functionality. Now if you say that there things available in the apps store that androids own apps store cant then you'd be right.
    What does Android use for media management?

    I'm assuming it has its own software, however you're able to connect it to the computer and transfer files directly without going through bloated difficult software to do it. We both know itunes is a common complaint.
    I'm sure you know that such a statement is an ad hominem logical fallacy.

    I never took latin at school but honestly you want a serious disscusion on something a year old that nit picks about a clock being a major flaw for just under half the article????? Theres no evidence to suggest this is anything other than the app being set at a different time. As one of the comments says at the bottom:
    The answer is obvious. The digital clock shows Google (of G-Time as I like to call it) time while the analog shows the time for the rest of us.

    And then moves onto the pictures showing android on different devices? So... big deal, its meant for more than on device.
    Marty_J wrote: »
    I don't know what Palm or their lawyers thought. Palm only came up because some journalist mentioned them, so I don't see why they should get their panties in a wad.

    I think palm was mentioned and tim cook made his comments, hardly surprising the reaction.

    That copy and paste advert from apple just came on the tv, makes me chuckle everytime.
  • Marty_J
    Marty_J Posts: 6,594 Forumite
    edited 19 August 2009 at 11:42PM
    asininity wrote: »
    I'm saying they'd like to. Then the iphones the only option. IBM and the PC come to mind. Why is it android didn't have it enabled?

    I haven't seen any evidence of Apple monopolising anything, least of all something that isn't monopolised.
    Damn right I'm gonna say it. Its an app, not something the iphone can do that android cant. Apps are addons, not integral functionality. Now if you say that there things available in the apps store that androids own apps store cant then you'd be right.

    Let me ask you this: what can Android do that Windows Mobile can't do?
    I'm assuming it has its own software, however you're able to connect it to the computer and transfer files directly without going through bloated difficult software to do it. We both know itunes is a common complaint.

    Some people have very large music libraries. I have over 6000 tracks in mine, so "drag and drop" is a pain on the backside, not a feature.
    I never took latin at school but honestly you want a serious disscusion on something a year old that nit picks about a clock being a major flaw for just under half the article?????

    I was illustrating a point, not levying a criticism.
    I think palm was mentioned and tim cook made his comments, hardly surprising the reaction.

    I don't think Apple are alone in seeking to protect their Intellectual Property. Palm are hardly a worker's co-op, now are they?
    That copy and paste advert from apple just came on the tv, makes me chuckle everytime.

    it is pretty funny, isn't it?

    Those Android ads always make me laugh too.
  • asininity
    asininity Posts: 1,615 Forumite
    Marty_J wrote: »
    I haven't seen any evidence of Apple monopolising anything, least of all something that isn't monopolised.

    Well I see it in thinly veiled threats but there you go.
    Let me ask you this: what can Android do that Windows Mobile can't do?

    Probably nothing but I dont like windoze. Listen I know you know android is a match for the iphone OS, sure they do things differently and are aimed at different markets. If it wasn't for the price and a few other things I'd probably have an iphone, which I'm sure you'd agree is why apple dont have a bigger market share. As it is I'll be having an android phone for my next one.
    Some people have very large music libraries. I have over 6000 tracks in mine, so "drag and drop" is a pain on the backside, not a feature.

    I have more than that, which I have organised myself into folders of bands and albums, etc. I like to drag and drop that or parts of it.
    I was illustrating a point, not levying a criticism.

    My original comments were made purposely flippant, mainly due to the pettiness of the article, I'm well aware of androids short comings as I am of the iphones.
    I don't think Apple are alone in seeking to protect their Intellectual Property. Palm are hardly a worker's co-op, now are they?

    Not saying they are, just thinly veiled threats annoy me, especially if you've nothing to back it up. Minds me of M$ threats against the linux community and users.
    it is pretty funny, isn't it?

    Those Android ads always make me laugh too.

    I not seen any android ads post some funny ones.
  • Marty_J
    Marty_J Posts: 6,594 Forumite
    asininity wrote: »
    Probably nothing but I dont like windoze. Listen I know you know android is a match for the iphone OS, sure they do things differently and are aimed at different markets. If it wasn't for the price and a few other things I'd probably have an iphone, which I'm sure you'd agree is why apple dont have a bigger market share. As it is I'll be having an android phone for my next one.

    Android is fine, but as I was saying earlier, its biggest battle is attracting developers. If it can't do that in large numbers, then its sunk. The App Store is one of the iPhone's main selling points. Android have done well to emulate it, but its still not there yet. The lack of a desktop client for it would annoy me. Sometimes I'll browse the App Store on my computer and download things to be installed later.
    I have more than that, which I have organised myself into folders of bands and albums, etc. I like to drag and drop that or parts of it.

    Well fair enough, but how do you create playlists? Or, possibly iTunes' most underused feature, Smart Playlists? Can you do anything like Genius on your device or computer?

    I've never understood the ire some people have for iTunes; it works great for me (though I guess that's all that matters).
    Not saying they are, just thinly veiled threats annoy me, especially if you've nothing to back it up. Minds me of M$ threats against the linux community and users.

    But that's the thing, they haven't threatened anyone.
    I not seen any android ads

    Me neither! :p

    But still, early days yet I guess.
  • purplebuzz
    purplebuzz Posts: 160 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    I also had a LG Arena until very recently, and decided I just really didn't like it (won't go into all the details) but couldn't really get on with the touchscreen, so didn't want an iPhone.

    I sold it and now I have a Samsung Tocco Ultra which I absolutely love cos it has a touch screen (must better than the LG) but a keypad as well!!!
  • asininity
    asininity Posts: 1,615 Forumite
    Marty_J wrote: »
    Android is fine, but as I was saying earlier, its biggest battle is attracting developers. If it can't do that in large numbers, then its sunk. The App Store is one of the iPhone's main selling points. Android have done well to emulate it, but its still not there yet. The lack of a desktop client for it would annoy me. Sometimes I'll browse the App Store on my computer and download things to be installed later.

    Theres now some 5000 apps availiable for android as of july this year. I dont think finding developers is gonna be a problem. I dont think the aim of android is to emulate the iphone, though it can do on phones. This is an interesting article: Iphone cant scale.
    Well fair enough, but how do you create playlists? Or, possibly iTunes' most underused feature, Smart Playlists? Can you do anything like Genius on your device or computer?

    Well that depends on what I'm using, but I really dont bother with playlists. I like all my music so tend to just use shuffle. Occasionally I'll make a playlist but like to pick the songs myself.
    I've never understood the ire some people have for iTunes; it works great for me (though I guess that's all that matters).

    I just think its bloated and (I'm not sure now as haven't used it in many years) tunes are tied to itunes, DRM, etc. Not for me.
    But that's the thing, they haven't threatened anyone.

    This really depends on perception so we'll have to agree to disagree.
  • Marty_J
    Marty_J Posts: 6,594 Forumite
    edited 20 August 2009 at 3:26PM
    asininity wrote: »
    Theres now some 5000 apps availiable for android as of july this year. I dont think finding developers is gonna be a problem.

    Well at that stage, the iPhone had some 30,000 apps available.
    I dont think the aim of android is to emulate the iphone, though it can do on phones. This is an interesting article: Iphone cant scale.

    That is an interesting article (and I like the codenames - who wouldn't want to run Cupcake on their phone?), and he does have a valid point that the iPhone OS is only designed to run on Apple hardware. But it just reflects a different way of doing business rather than an inherent flaw. Windows has a much larger market share than OS X for instance, yet proportionally Apple make a lot more profit than Microsoft. Having an enormous market share has never been Apple's primary goal; making piles of cash is.

    Having your products installed on the widest range of devices is one way to make money (and it's a way with its own set of problems), but not the only way.
    Well that depends on what I'm using, but I really dont bother with playlists. I like all my music so tend to just use shuffle. Occasionally I'll make a playlist but like to pick the songs myself.

    Fair enough, but I'm sure you understand the attraction of having an automatically updated playlist that has all my 5 star rated songs (or whatever) in it.
    I just think its bloated and (I'm not sure now as haven't used it in many years) tunes are tied to itunes, DRM, etc. Not for me.

    There's no DRM in iTunes music anymore (in fact, Apple were instrumental in the push to remove DRM from music), and I can appreciate that iTunes' feature-set has grown over the years, but lots of them are very good.
    This really depends on perception so we'll have to agree to disagree.

    I can live with that. :beer:
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