Why are some people on here being so nasty?

lostinrates

Annpan wrote: »

"Live and Let Live"

And another thing, is there a rule that you have to make more than so many posts before you can be rude?

Love you all.
xxx

Live and let live is a good one.;) :rolleyes:

I don't ever TRY to be rude but I did accept in challenging what I saw was unfounded rudness it could appear ....strident. I apologise if this is how it has appeared and will stand corrected. I am very aware that new people often have a hard time on MSE and have vocalised that I think thats a poor show. I similarly think its unpleasant when new people launch attacks though. At least the people with longstanding arguments have longstanding resentments in which to base their similarly uncomforatable posts. I don't personally like any of them - but some get a lot out of them it seems.

So, for any discomforture I have caused I sincerely apologise.

BACKFRMTHEEDGE

Conrad wrote: »

The reason for some of the venom could be that over the last few years those that didn't buy a home were ridiculed both subtlely and overtly.
It was common to hear "rentings for losers, it's dead money, get some bottle and buy now, prices only go up, too many people too much demand to possibly entertain the idea prices could fall, I've made £100k on my house - but I'm not bragging - just surprised is all (mmmm)"

This was like a death by a thousand cuts, where the non buyers must have felt isolated, and outside the norm.
Now at last they might feel vindicated that it turned out they were'nt mad Carrie loners, but actually ahead of the curve.

What goes around......

That's all true. Indeed, buying a house with a "sensible" mortgage of say 2 times joint was also seen as being for wimps:rolleyes:. Everyone around me kept saying "oh but you've got to take the most you can get - like 5 times - 'cos it's an investment" and when you say "I don't really like being in debt" it was common to be told "oh but it's not debt - it's an investment" Bet it feels like debt now:rolleyes:

- but I don't mean to be nasty. I do feel like people have been conned. A great big scam. Good news though inflation's on the up - those big debts will be eroded away in no time.:D

BACKFRMTHEEDGE

lostinrates wrote: »

I am very aware that new people often have a hard time on MSE and have vocalised that I think thats a poor show. I similarly think its unpleasant when new people launch attacks though. At least the people with longstanding arguments have longstanding resentments in which to base their similarly uncomforatable posts. I don't personally like any of them - but some get a lot out of them it seems.

I often think that new people who are rude are not really new people at all - they are just the same old wolf in new clothing....:cool:

Catalystpod

BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »

I often think that new people who are rude are not really new people at all - they are just the same old wolf in new clothing....:cool:

What you sayin? You go out pick up your kids from school and find your a wolf.
I was naughty but I couldnt help it. You can only judge by what you read and I might be a newby here but am seasoned in this type of chitchat so can I please still play in your yard?

Catalystpod

Annpan wrote: »

Twas I that started it with 'what goes around....etc' Only said it like you do as a term of phrase. The trouble with it was that my mate NDG decided to make a harrowing analogy of some poor soul starving in Somalia (Ithink) with AIDS. Just got me goat.
Here's another one for her - "Live and Let Live"

And another thing, is there a rule that you have to make more than so many posts before you can be rude?

Love you all.
xxx

Looks that way.

Zammo

BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »

- but I don't mean to be nasty. I do feel like people have been conned. A great big scam. Good news though inflation's on the up - those big debts will be eroded away in no time.:D

Not without wage inflation. :beer:

carolt

Conrad wrote: »

The reason for some of the venom could be that over the last few years those that didn't buy a home were ridiculed both subtlely and overtly.
It was common to hear "rentings for losers, it's dead money, get some bottle and buy now, prices only go up, too many people too much demand to possibly entertain the idea prices could fall, I've made £100k on my house - but I'm not bragging - just surprised is all (mmmm)"

This was like a death by a thousand cuts, where the non buyers must have felt isolated, and outside the norm.
Now at last they might feel vindicated that it turned out they were'nt mad Carrie loners, but actually ahead of the curve.

What goes around......

Really well put.

Certainly after years of smug comments from those who bought...years ago.. (and continuing smug comments, but only from desperate BTLetters on here - no-one in the real world is smug any longer, just nervous), it is a blessed relief to see prices finally falling and see the day when one can finally buy a home without being financially crippled in the process coming ever nearer.

Obviously, this is no comfort at all to those who DID buy very recently, and are really worried about it, like the OP - who clearly need all the sympathy/help they can get.

I'm pretty sure I've never posted anything rude to anyone in that situation; if our house purchase hadn't fallen through about 16 months ago, that could well have been me posting on this forum (to which I first came then, in search of advice on my planned purchase). I was just lucky - it fell through.

On the other hand, like Pobby, I'm happy to agree I've frequently been (extremely) sarky to those who were posting in order to gloat at their wealth (for which read equity) compared to us non-home-owning 'fools' etc. I don't have a whole bundle of sympathy to spare either for those who chose to take risky punts on BTL as 'a one-way ticket to Easy Street' as Inside Track described it - ie those who felt in some way entitled to easy money for sitting on their backsides, yet couldn't even be bothered to actually check out the figures for themselves.

But the OP is a long way from that - she was only attempting to buy a home for herself, to provide a secure foundation for herself and her future, (and those familiar with her story will know she was not entirely comfortable with the decision to buy initially, anyway) and does not deserve to be lumped in with the lot described above.

So give her a break.

neverdespairgirl

Annpan wrote: »

I can see you are not nasty but I suspect you're a bit depressed.

Wow, not only a KGB charm-school reject but a doctor to boot :rotfl:

Actually, I'm not at all depressed, although thank you for your concern. I'm extremely cheerful!

ianmr65

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I don't think it happens, though. Life has winners and losers - take the 15th child born to some poor African woman with advanced AIDS, no medicine, no access to clean water, or enough food. Isn't coming round fast!

WELL SAID NDG!!:T

Indeed or the rest of the 2/3s of the world population living on less than 50P a day!!

It's on these people's shoulders that we are all standing!!.

It was only a short 60- 80 years or so ago, since people in the UK and Europe suffered real shortages, and poverty and hunger.

Let's hope we never go back to those times - but to the OP and everyone else, regardless of how many problems you think you have, or how upset
the words of others make you feel:

As long as you aren't going to bed hungry, and are sleeping in warm, dry bed... you are doing a great deal better than most people on this planet ever have or ever will.

neverdespairgirl

Catalystpod wrote: »

I so agree. My first day on this fine established forum. I can't help noticing that Alwaysdespairgirl is a bit of a misery spreader - I bet shes a barrel of laughs down the pub.
Get off that soapbox and stop yer nitpicking Neverwotsit.

Eh? Not sure I nitpick much, and I'm considered the star of the party in the pub, esp. when I do my (in)famous impression of a dying duck in a thunderstorm :rotfl: