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DMP Mutual Support Thread (Part 4)

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  • 3 out of 7 creditors have frozen interest (these are Lloyds TSB, MBNA and Capital One). Nat West have defaulted (on the loan and overdraft) and told us that it will now pass to their Collection Department and interest will cease.

    Barclaycard have been a nightmare, charging more in interest than our monthly payment. I have therefore written an official letter of complaint and they have said they will respond to this within a certain timescale.

    Nat West Credit Card are slapping on extortionate amounts of interest and again, I have written an official complaint and awaiting their response.

    Unfortunately it's a case of gritting your teeth whilst the interest is being added and fighting your corner. Creditors generally stop interest but when this happens no one can tell.

    Once interest does cease, I will then start trying to claim back charges etc but I would rather wait and let everything settle down before going down that road.

    I recently took over our DMP and as yet I am unsure how the creditors will react to this.

    We have received the usual threatening letters from several of the creditors, but this is par for the course and these are generally computed generated anyway. They will do all they can in the early days to try and get you to pay them, but you have to stick to your guns.

    :)
    *Official DMP Mutual Support Club Member No 147*
    *Official DFW Nerd Club Member No 923*
    I have no idea what I'm talking about!
  • I have eight creditors and now only Goldfish are charging around 50% of my monthly dmp payment as interest. I aim to write to them this week to see if I can get that down to zero. Generally, all eight have acted empathetically. I have around the same total debt as Parsley ( £58,591) I'm paying just over £600.00 each month via CCCS, and my aim is to try to clear the lot within 5 years. Tall order, and I'd probably be better off taking smaller goals on board so as I achieve them, it will motivate me to try even harder.
    Only one creditor served a Statutory notice on me for a £16,000 debt, but they settled for £11,500. I managed to find the money by cashing in a pension which I absolutely hated doing. I was on no doubt that this creditor would follow through which is why I paid up. Usually, Stat notices are scare tactics I think...although you should never smply ignore one.
  • rayday2
    rayday2 Posts: 3,960 Forumite
    rayday2 wrote: »
    Not sure if this is wanted but will post just in case:

    This is the support thread for anyone on a DMP. The original started by 95Kelly, the second and the third have got so big they are in danger of slowing the site down. I have copied the list of contributors from the thread and reproduced it below:

    Members Numbers:

    95 Kelly 1
    teecee 2
    Ex-spenaholic 3
    Smilealot 4
    Huntress 5
    sea78 6
    gemmzie 7
    goldigger 8
    IDAAS 9
    Bloody HEll 10
    Joek 11
    Jumps 12
    shearerbobs 13
    Bluediamond 14
    ashden 15
    newgirl 16
    lonely 17
    emmy1 18
    leixlip1 19
    greengrocer 20
    daisyblue 21
    scared 22
    njc12 23
    franny 24
    bessy 25
    neith 26
    rustybucket 27
    kevster1009 28
    fay66 29
    valleys girl 30
    totallyfedup 31
    newlywed 32
    brassicks 33
    vpmamt 34
    4maxine 35
    looby75 36
    nugsfarnham 37
    yellowmonkey 38
    amani 39
    dlb 40
    ticktock1973 41
    auntie pie 42
    pan 43
    alfredsmum 44
    llewelyn 45
    vickaycon 46
    Scottishmummy 47
    wewillclearthis 48
    Winkus 49
    ilovegreatdanes 50
    hopeful 51
    mioliere52 52
    charlie2301 53
    readhead999 54
    VivCk 55
    dumb debtor 56
    Cuba Cat 57
    Lennymfo 58
    Michelle73 59
    welshjojo 60
    craftingqueen 61
    onamission 62
    rayday2 63
    sweety83 64
    lonelytoo 65
    Dreamer999 66
    everclear1973 67
    DrJekyll 68
    ankleshaggers 69
    lily-ella 70
    bowz25 71
    LoubieLou 72
    itsalldrivingmemad 73
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    cath 75
    toasti 76
    Heregoes! 77
    lonely2 78
    Pompeymark88 79
    worrygirl 80
    eripmav 81
    xgingerx 82
    Katchambers 83
    Boltonbwfc 84
    Coochycoo 85
    Knotty29 86
    itsnowtime 87
    tinytot143 88
    Jaks 89
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    MadDogWoman 91
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    SortingIt 95
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    JacksXXX 97
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    CharliesAngel 101
    Chipbeck 102
    Spendthrift66 103
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    Jodenice 105
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    donnacarteruk 107
    mummytofour 108
    debtman2007 109
    debrag 110
    cloudnine 111
    moneydesperatex 112
    Compulsivespender79 113
    Limana68 114
    Stargazeratdawn 115
    KeelyJrs 116
    TakeittotheLimit 117
    Sallyx 118
    Amyv 119
    learnthehardway 120
    monkey22 121
    Janey51 122
    tracytaxi 123
    Bigdi 124
    Sanshing 125
    ald65 126
    piptom&AndyPandy 127
    CBI 128
    tara66 129
    barbie doll 130
    afur 131
    GlassHalfFull 132
    timetobefree 133
    Alex Fyfe 134
    geoffmr1 135
    tomandjerry 136
    Gooner87 137
    Sam89 138
    telboy99 139
    MUMMYMOO 140
    Marru 141
    Mogminnie 142
    Debtfree2015 143
    pinksparkle82 144
    UKroseblue 145
    Gingerish 146
    Whoopiedoodle 147
    mumzyof2 148
    madrocks 149
    Carlos700 150
    Coolmum 151
    Lovella 152
    Kitty 153
    Tinkerbell12 154
    10past6 155
    ailsajayne27 156
    mazmc 157
    ticklepenny 157
    loopylu36 158
    tickertyboo 159
    maz1964 160
    Shineyhead 161
    Creditwreck 162
    fedupandworried 163
    lisabell 164
    gonna be 165
    Dski 166
    Geddy 167
    Skibadee 168
    tass 169
    Tigert 170
    Silou 171
    Reformed Shopaholic 172
    hamsterpoo 173
    milliejon 174
    indebtstudent 175
    rugby6ft8 176
    Violet1 177
    Andytwonames 178
    Donedoingdebt 179
    sunshine38 180
    lostalot 181
    Hollyb 182
    Angeldiva 183
    Piggsy 184
    longforthesun 185
    Wen3 186
    moneysavingmumofone 187
    Just Me 188
    HollyB 189
    Jvic28 190
    Therelda 191
    Itsnowtime 192
    Angel Cake 193
    MclarenGurl 194
    So Sad Angel 195
    Shazand 196
    louietudor 197
    tishywish 198
    simbalou 199
    spent too much money 200
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    Mary Mungo + Midge 205
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    Jackie710 207
    kpwll 208
    ben79 209
    Griswold 210
    Toffee Penny 211
    Numpty Monkey 212
    pinksparkle 213
    Alpinestar 214
    flounder1 215
    Ikkle 87 216
    archers addict 217
    Claireyfairy31 218
    Singsalsing 219
    Yummy-mummy 220
    Lisa-r 221
    very silly and scared 222
    Johnny Madrid 223
    Murraymint 224
    NW-ANGEL 225

    There we go officially welcomed :D
  • rayday2
    rayday2 Posts: 3,960 Forumite
    NW-ANGEL wrote: »
    Thank you very much Ray:A ...like i say we'v done well to pay so much in a year and obviously want to keep at it, just wondered how creditors view people gong it alone :confused: - but surely its better us paying them more - dm Co tell us not to overpay because companies come to think you can do it all the time and not being honest with your income but just for example on our normal wages we pay over what creitors are happy with and when OH earns overtime id like to pay more off :T - its the arguement of save/pay off debt and dm Co get on my nerves with this amongst other things i have been doing lots of chasing round creditors to keep things up to date so may as well do myself lol :mad: - for example one of our creditors kept sending laters saying we were going to default and we were paying more than the required amount :confused: so after several months of people saying its fine theres no prob with account - i found dm Co were sending payment 2 days later than creditor wanted - instead of just asking us if we could pay 2 days earlier :mad: - which we could! and for £20 i would have made damn sure we could lol !! only through my own organisation and sorting did i stop them being sold on and defaults registering -(i know some companies do this as standard) i always allow two days always to make sure salaries hit account ok...then pay debts straight out... so their slowness is just another of the reasons!!

    also means the couple of small debts i can get rid of sooner - gives better feeling and will improve credit i spose too....anyway sorry to ramble but feel better now lol:rotfl:
    thanks
    kel
    x;)

    Sorry but I kind of agree with the DM company here - curse we down!

    It is not good to pay little bits over as it does give the impression that your budget is not honest. What is the usual advice is to save the extra you have so that you can do full and final settlements down the line.

    Also I would say anyone who has read this, it is not good practice to try to avoid defaults by finding extra money and also a debt sold on can be good news. Debt collection agencies are more likely to accept payments and freeze interest and also if you do come to settle down the line will probably take lower settlements.

    Sorry if I sound a bit harsh and discouraging and don't take it that way I applaud loudly what you are doing dumping the DMC and taking hold of the reins yourself but you do need to get your head round what a DMP is about especially if you are handling it yourself.

    I have got rid of my little ones by offering them a little more so this is a plus side of your DMP but you are better handling it this way than just offering random amounts occasionally, so extra bits to the smaller companies every month is better than occasionally saying oooh I have this £50 - here you go!
  • NW-ANGEL
    NW-ANGEL Posts: 299 Forumite
    rayday2 wrote: »
    Sorry but I kind of agree with the DM company here - curse we down!:rotfl:

    It is not good to pay little bits over as it does give the impression that your budget is not honest. i can understand this What is the usual advice is to save the extra you have so that you can do full and final settlements down the line. just felt like DMCo want to spread the debt out so they get more money off us the longer we are with them...

    Also I would say anyone who has read this, it is not good practice to try to avoid defaults by finding extra money and also a debt sold on can be good news. No we didnt pay EXTRA £20 that is our payment and we could have paid the £20 a day or 2 earlier - we were only defaulting was because DMco wasnt paying them on time! what i meant was we pay DMCo on a certain day and they were faffing - and they didnt sort this out for us - went on for months bamboozling me because as far as we were concerned they had money! Debt collection agencies are more likely to accept payments and freeze interest and also if you do come to settle down the line will probably take lower settlements.thanks ;)

    Sorry if I sound a bit harshno not at all - advise is what i want and hope i dont sound it back - i prefer harsh truths anyway lol:rotfl: ;) thanks and discouraging and don't take it that way I applaud loudly i dont and thank you xx what you are doing dumping the DMC and taking hold of the reins yourself but you do need to get your head round what a DMP is about especially if you are handling it yourself.

    I have got rid of my little ones by offering them a little more this is my intention as we have 4 small ones that could be paid sooner -but DMCo were spreadin payments over the same length of time as a £10k one?!! so this is a plus side of your DMP but you are better handling it this way than just offering random amounts occasionally, we do have a set figure and have paid for over 12 months now and a few have sent letters saying arrears cleared and cred info sent to cred ref agencie s- re- good payment and up to date etc so extra bits to the smaller companies every month is better than occasionally saying oooh I have this £50 - here you go!do just want to do this with smaller debts though [quote]

    thanks for all your help i really do appreciate it and prefer harsh truths lol honest ...will save up th eextra cash then ...its just the save/pay debt discussion isnt it....but see what you mean

    thanks!
    kel ;)
  • Bigdi
    Bigdi Posts: 76 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Cloudnine, can I ask who served the statutory notice?
  • rayday2
    rayday2 Posts: 3,960 Forumite
    Phew NW-ANGEL glad I didn't offend you at all. I hate dashing people down! I am pretty sure the companies will be happy you are taking over as they will see a bit more of the pie coming their way. I would point out that you are using the natonal debtline which a lot of the companies donate to so they can't really object (if you have any problems).

    I pay most of mine by standing order on days that they are happy with, never direct debit as obviously they have control over it then. A couple are still cheques but it costs them to cash them so there problem not mine!
  • Madrocks
    Madrocks Posts: 36 Forumite
    Hi all, not been on in a while its been a tough couple of months since starting dmp with cccs in May. Just thought id give you a quick rundown on how its going with mine, i have 5 creditors and debt free date in 18 yrs

    Northern Rock Loan - accepted dmp straight away for a period of 12 months and stopped interest. No phone calls or letters except the acceptance letter.
    Tesco Loan - again accepted dmp for a period of 12 months with no interest, no phone calls or letters except the accpetance letter
    Captial One CC - No phone calls or letters and no word to myself or cccs that they accepted dmp, but in June cc statement came with a little note at top saying to make my payments as normal whilst on reduced payment plan and no interest has been applied.
    Egg CC - Again no phone calls (cause i changed my phone number with them :rolleyes:) No interest has been applied since June but no letter to say dmp has been accepetd. I do recieve at least once a month a letter saying that we have been unable to contact you and need to discuss urgently your account, to this i just send the standard letter im on dmp etc but as no interest has been applied im thinking they have accepted.
    Lloyds TSB Overdraft - :mad: Where do i begin!! They have been absolute ******* Even though cccs have wrote to them 3 times and myself about 6 times, they ring about 4 times a day and send at least 5 letters a week,just been served with the default notice letter so we'll have to wait and see what happens from here. OH is getting stressed with it all but i damn well refuse to give in.
    To all the newcomers i can only say keep your chin up, the first couple of months are rough. This site has taught me a loads from the DFW forum to the moneysaving old style forum i have saved loads anyway got to go now, in middle of cooking a curry which has cost me £8 for ingredients and will last 7 meals :D
  • rayday2
    rayday2 Posts: 3,960 Forumite
    Lloyds overdraft were the worst with me too, took 9 months for them to stop interest and charges and accept a payment plan. I have no idea how many letters but there were a lot! Eventually I got there and the charges refunded, case of wine, payment book and accepted plan for a year. Since then I have put the amount up and they accepted right away. Whereas, Lloyds credit cards refused the extra money. Also last month they offered 50% full and final settlement. So eventually they get there but it don't have wear you down in the process sometimes!
  • NW-ANGEL
    NW-ANGEL Posts: 299 Forumite
    rayday2 wrote: »
    Phew NW-ANGEL glad I didn't offend you at all. I hate dashing people down! you didnt ;)I am pretty sure the companies will be happy you are taking over as they will see a bit more of the pie coming their way. just sat down and worked every penny out etc and can up all payments a chunk - so much so that could all be gone by summer 2010:j just by adding what we pay DMCo and £40 more...which we can afford I would point out that you are using the natonal debtline which a lot of the companies donate to so they can't really object (if you have any problems).

    I pay most of mine by standing order on days that they are happy with, never direct debit as obviously they have control over it then. A couple are still cheques but it costs them to cash them so there problem not mine!
    thanks so much rayday!!:A
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