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  • kellymundy
    kellymundy Posts: 161 Forumite
    So what happens when she's lost the weigt. Ist guess is it all goes back on plus some.

    Why does everyone think that just because you lose the weight quickly it means you'll put it back on just as quickly plus more???
    Like I've said before I'm on Cambridge Diet (meal replacement), which is doctor monitored by the way, and I know of plenty of people who have lost a tremendous amount of weight and kept it off for years.
    You learn just as much about how to eat afterwards on a diet like this as you would on something like SW or WW, you just don't eat it whilst you lose the weight!
    On these plans once you're at your ideal weight you slowly reintroduce healthy food so the weight doesn't go back on plus more. Provided you watch what you eat (like after all diets) you are no more likely to put the weight back on after a meal replacement plan than you are after a reduced calorie plan such as WW.
    For the record I've so far lost 3st 7lbs on Cambridge Diet but sadly I have another 4 stone still to go (I'll be in a size 10 for christmas though!!!:D).
  • ajaxgeezer
    ajaxgeezer Posts: 2,476 Forumite
    kellymundy wrote: »
    Why does everyone think that just because you lose the weight quickly it means you'll put it back on just as quickly plus more???

    ........everyone? Or was that just as wild an assumption as the one you were disputing?
    vixarooni wrote: »
    I was only joking! Theres no point me being on it really anyway.

    ......well you are now, so I'd get your page changed if I were you.... :D
  • vixarooni
    vixarooni Posts: 4,376 Forumite
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    experience kellymundy?

    These guys wont mind me saying this, but they're not 21, they've been around a bit, theyve done many a diet in which they have probably lost a fair amount quite quickly, then once off they have put it all back on.
  • vixarooni
    vixarooni Posts: 4,376 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    ajaxgeezer wrote: »
    ........everyone? Or was that just as wild an assumption as the one you were disputing?



    ......well you are now, so I'd get your page changed if I were you.... :D

    haha. I feel loved now. Much love back :p
  • kellymundy
    kellymundy Posts: 161 Forumite
    vixarooni wrote: »
    experience kellymundy?

    These guys wont mind me saying this, but they're not 21, they've been around a bit, theyve done many a diet in which they have probably lost a fair amount quite quickly, then once off they have put it all back on.

    I'm not 21 either and I've done all the WW a SW diets to so I'm not exactly inexperianced at the dieting game myself. If you put the weigh back on after any diet it's bacause you've learnt nothing from putting the weight on in the first place and not because the diet failed you.
    It's just so easy to blame a diet for your own lack of self control if you put the weight back on after losing it, which is the same for anyone who has lost the weigh and put it all back on again including myself (I've previously lost a fair amount of weight with SW). I'm not saying that other diets don't work, they all do, but what I am saying is it's not the speed that you lose the weight or the diet plan that you follow that determinds that you keep the weight off, it's how you handle yourself with food after you've lost the weight. There is a lot of negitivity, not just on here, towards meal replacement diets saying that you put the weight back on after coming off them, purely because people think that they are to good to be true. I apologise if anyone has taken this rant of mine to heart but it is exactly that, just a rant. Surely anyone losing weight on any plan can relate to this, the constant bombardment of people (some who barely know you) telling you that your diet (which ever one you're on) doesn't work (like all diets according to these people) and you'll end up back where you started with extra baggage?:confused:
  • Kelly,

    BB's inital comment was directed at a specific situation outlined by KPC. The only form of negativity you find on this forum is usually directed towards situations which seem unhealthy and 800kcals a day is way under recommendations from various health governing type bodies.

    Which is why you'd struggle to find anyone on here who would whole heartedly endorse diet pills, even then we get the pros and cons of various types avaiolable from the docs.

    The main reason people say 'off quick back on quick' is precisely the reason why your extolling the cambridge diet -re-education and addressing both nutritional and emotional needs. Also you get the downside whereby the weight goes off at a crazy rate only to slow down which either pushes people over the edge and into starvation realms as they try to sustain the quick losses or tips them back into their original ways.

    Everyone on this thread follows different plans, has different issues and problems so it is well understood that different things work for different people. Any criticism on here is usually only said out of concern for the other person and we have had many examples of people benefitting from it (missy g was convinced to up her eating to get her final few weight losses out of the decimal zone and Vic has done fantastically in altering her approach to food. to name but a few).

    I don't think anyone on here has knocked the cambridge diet so don't feel that anyone was having a go at you.

    p.s VIX - course you'd deserve tyo go on the members page you are a fabulous example of maintaining!!!

    p.p.s late for train...so fast typing...hope all that made some sort of sense
  • LindaS wrote: »
    Can I join in too?? I want to loose at least 33lbs just to get me to 25 BMI which is the top range for being "healthy".

    My problem is, when I was at uni I was very active, did horseback riding, polo, gliding, windsurfing, swimming, I had something on every day. Now that I'm working and paying back my debts I don't have the money or time to do any of these activities. :cry:

    So ever since leaving uni I've been steadily gaining weight, despite trying to eat less. I tried a gym for one month. Went 2-3 times per week, had a routine made for me, combination off cardio and weights, but actually gained weight over this period. Since I told myself I had to loose weight, I've actually gained 5lbs. It's getting really depressing:embarasse


    Hi Linda, nice to hear from you. I to used to be fairly active, (I was forced to stop for health reasons, although I also have the Uni debt thing too). I'm just getting back into things now, with a few hiccups - my restart of horse riding was a bit of a disaster :rotfl: . Please don't get disheartened with the gym thing. Initial weight gain is common because you are increasing your muscle which is much more dense than fat. If you take your measurment, you should begin to notice things changing in the right direction! Just make sure that you don't get off track with food thinking that you can eat whatever because you've had a workout (I have fallen into this trap several times before:eek: ). There are loads of really great people here who will support you, I'm still a relative newbie with a long way to go (12lbs down, 68 to go!). I'm a great believer in treats for achieving weight loss goals (mine are every 1/2 stone, but sometimes I have smaller treats for smaller goals (I'm addicted to the bath things from LUSH - but I make sure I work hard to get them)! Also, with the financial side of things, I know some people aren't happy with this, but I usually ask for money instead of birthday/chritmas presents, and this partly funds the activities I like to do like horse riding. I think it works for me because people know that I will spend it on this and they know how much I appreciate it. It's very hard for me to justify spending any money on myself now that I have a son, but this way I feel a little less guilty! Perhaps, you could do something along those lines and treat yourself to one gliding session once you have lost 10lbs or something.

    Just a few ideas anyway. Best wishes with the weight loss.

    LD
    £2008 in 2008 member 552 £1947 to go! (started 20/1/08) Total wins £61
    Weight loss since April 2008 - 14lbs a whole stone!:j
  • kellymundy
    kellymundy Posts: 161 Forumite
    Kelly,

    BB's inital comment was directed at a specific situation outlined by KPC. The only form of negativity you find on this forum is usually directed towards situations which seem unhealthy and 800kcals a day is way under recommendations from various health governing type bodies.

    Cambridge is just under 500cals a day which I can understand why people who don't know the diet think is really not a sensible plan to follow. The thing with it is although you are only having 500cals intake a day the 3 packs you have the exact daily amount of vitimins and minerals your body needs to keep running and to stop you going into starvation (you wouldn't have the sort of weight losses you have on this diet if you were in starvation).
    This diet was actually first used in hospitals on people who needed to lose weight quickly in order to have surgery safely so it is perfectly safe provided you are monitored on it by your GP. There is no way doctors would let you use a diet that was a) going to be really bad for your health, and b) put your life more at risk losing the weight than you would have been before in staying obese.
    I just get very frustrated when getting people are so free in giving really negitive opinions when they really obviously have no idea about the ins and outs of a diet. Like I said I'm just venting and I apologise that you guys have copped it but I would hope that people who are struggling, like I am, to lose the weight would be understanding.:o
  • Cute_'n'_Quirky
    Cute_'n'_Quirky Posts: 2,082 Forumite
    kellymundy wrote: »
    I'm currently on the Cambridge Diet and have gone from 17st and a size 22 to 13st 7lbs and a size 16 in 3 months. I've still got a fair way to go but I don't think I could have got this far on any other diet (I've tried them all!). On this diet you lose on average 1 stone per months so you get result really quickly.
    Cambridge is a meal replacement diet, where you have food packs and basically don't eat. You have to have a minimum of 4 pints of water a day which is a bit hard at first (with a lot of bathroom breaks! lol) but you get used to it after a couple of weeks.
    It costs around £35 a week (about half of what lighter life costs, which is the same thing) but when you take into account that you're not having to buy food for yourself, it's not that expensive really.

    I have been on Cambridge coming up 11 months now.

    I did 8 weeks of SS then switched to 790 and did 20 weeks of that.

    Then went up to 1000 Plan in preparation for going on holiday.

    Went back onto SS at the end of April and am now on SS+

    I love the Cambridge Diet. It is the most fabulous plan with fabulous fast results.
  • Cute_'n'_Quirky
    Cute_'n'_Quirky Posts: 2,082 Forumite
    Kelly,

    BB's inital comment was directed at a specific situation outlined by KPC. The only form of negativity you find on this forum is usually directed towards situations which seem unhealthy and 800kcals a day is way under recommendations from various health governing type bodies.


    That is simply not true.

    N.I.C.E have done the research on VLCD's over the last 20-some years and have laid down recommendations for these diets which, incidentally, are TOTALLY and completely safe. That includes Cambridge, LighterLife and Lipotrim.

    Sole Source is 440 cals per day
    SS+ is 615 cals per day

    Both are perfectly safe as has been proven by the research. The research is fully available on the internet for anyone who wishes to read it. Not from Cambridge itself, from N.I.C.E. and their predecessor.


    I had to have my medical form signed before starting a VLCD because my BMI was over 35 but also because I was taking a lot of medication for RA.

    I have to have a blood test every month due to having RA and taking highly toxic DMARDS. My bloods have remained perfect throughout the last almost-11 months on being on the Cambridge Diet. My two GP's, two Orthopaedic Surgeons and a Rheumatologist are absolutely delighted with my progress on the diet.

    Neither will I be regaining the weight since Cambridge teaches good nutrition as we go up the plans to achieve maintenance of our weight loss.
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