Fuel Strike In Scotland 27th & 28th Could Cause Shortages All Over The UK!

devizes18193

CHRISSYG wrote: »

ive just been to my local morrisons and could not get in to the car park because of all the vehicles waiting to fuel up ! its bedlam !!

which store was that

TRUSt_NO_1_2

Dustangle wrote: »

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Whatever we do we must stick up for the Unite members - their employer sounds brutal, cutting out the final salary pension scheme and cutting pensions for existing and future workers. No wonder they got a 97% yes vote in the strike ballot - the employer is effectively trying to make the workers fund their purchase of the plant with their pensions, which are of course deferred earnings. Now the employer says they'll close the plant for a month. Blackmailing the workers and blackmailing the nation. The government should nationalise the plant with no compensation.

As I've said...this is a crude oil shortage...dressed up as a pension dispute.

I'll bet the company gives in to worker demands.

The governement ministers would be all over this demanding a settlement.It will cost the economy/oil companies hundreds of £millions in lost revenue and chaos when petrol runs out here there and everywhere.

BP has currently plenty of money for pensions....they're rolling in it !!
However if crude oil runs out...they're stuffed !
North Sea oil is in a rapid decline...which is also why the UK economy is going t*ts up !

There is a global shortage of crude oil as China mops it up and OPEC countries are saving oil for there own surging car usage.

HenryWeston

TRUSt_NO_1 wrote: »

As I've said...this is a crude oil shortage

mmmm thats why they pay around 4p a litre for fuel in saudi then....:rolleyes:

kacee

TRUSt_NO_1 wrote: »

As I've said...this is a crude oil shortage...dressed up as a pension dispute.

I'll bet the company gives in to worker demands.

The governement ministers would be all over this demanding a settlement.It will cost the economy/oil companies hundreds of £millions in lost revenue and chaos when petrol runs out here there and everywhere.

BP has currently plenty of money for pensions....they're rolling in it !!
However if crude oil runs out...they're stuffed !
North Sea oil is in a rapid decline...which is also why the UK economy is going t*ts up !

There is a global shortage of crude oil as China mops it up and OPEC countries are saving oil for there own surging car usage.

I think you have the wrong end of the stick here.

INEOS are on strike over pensions, however our site, ie the Refinery, power station and chemical plants supply water, electricity and steam to BP's Kinniel Crude plant. Without the INEOS sit BP's cannot run, end of story.

I do not think that INEOS will back down, unless there is real pressure from Government, BP (as they are losing money as well ) and the banks, as INEOS is mortgaged to the tune of £9billion.

TRUSt_NO_1_2

kacee wrote: »

I think you have the wrong end of the stick here.

INEOS are on strike over pensions, however our site, ie the Refinery, power station and chemical plants supply water, electricity and steam to BP's Kinniel Crude plant. Without the INEOS sit BP's cannot run, end of story.

I do not think that INEOS will back down, unless there is real pressure from Government, BP (as they are losing money as well ) and the banks, as INEOS is mortgaged to the tune of £9billion.

The maths don't stack up.

1200 workers at refinery.
Estimated cost of a final pension scheme over 20 years ?...and as I understand it it is just to new employees ?
1200*30000*.1*20
£72,000,000
Lost revenue per day just for the refinery=200,000 barrels X £60=£12,000,000

Trade bosses said the potential loss of production at a secondary plant could cost the UK economy £50m a day

However if the plant relies on imports from imported tanker supplies and those are in short supply (as China has been gobbling up world oil supplies delivered by tanker..thus $120/barrel) and reserves will run out anyway at the refinery without allowing stocks to recover...the maths do stack up.
It possibly would have had to shut down anyway or gone on to an extended period of low output.

TRUSt_NO_1_2

HenryWeston wrote: »

mmmm thats why they pay around 4p a litre for fuel in saudi then....:rolleyes:

that's a sweetener to keep the locals happy.

Why do you think oil price has more than doubled in 12 months ?

divadee

well its bedlam in bournemouth for petrol!!! my 2 local garages have run out of standard unleaded, i only went to fill up my jerry can for my lawnmower with unleaded (my car is diesel and filled up earlier in the week when it was empty) and couldnt get any at 2 garages so ended up getting premium unleaded :mad: and the bloke at the counter said that was gonna run out in the next hour.

why are people panicking? especially down here, you couldnt get much further away from scotland.

if people just filled up when they needed to there wouldnt be shortages, rather than filling up when they have used a couple of liters of fuel :mad:

lil_me

The only fuel shortages are going to be caused by idiots putting more in than they will even use/need, my friend screamed at her Dad yesterday because he came out with 'Oh I better fill up just incase' as she pointed out he uses 1/4 tank a month, prat doesn't need to fill up. Petrol is very expensive, why buy more than you need? No doubt someones cashing in as the really expensive independant I pass has put his prices up to cash in

TRUSt_NO_1_2

lil_me wrote: »

...'Oh I better fill up just incase' as she pointed out he uses 1/4 tank a month, prat doesn't need to fill up.....

You cannot stop nature....squirrels do it,mice do it,even people from MIlton Keynes do it....all together now "....now let's fill it up ...."

Stock up for potential hard times.

He's probably made a good investment though...let's see what the price is in 4 months ..

Hintza

Once the tanks are all filled up I imagine it will settle down especiallly down south. However I do not trust the waffle this government spouts about plenty of supply and that is why folk are filling up. If the government was more credible there wouldn't be this panic.

The one think I don't understand is why Ineos don't lay off the workforce until a solution is found. I imagine they will get up and running again and another strike will be called resulting in 2 days strike plus a fortnight at either end. This could go on for ages with no one winning but the rest of the country being bu$$ered around for months.

Anyone clued up on employment law?