Fuel Strike In Scotland 27th & 28th Could Cause Shortages All Over The UK!

peediedj

semmingly tescos wont be short,they supposedly buy and ship there fuel over from holland

devizes18193

peediedj wrote: »

semmingly tescos wont be short,they supposedly buy and ship there fuel over from holland

and there was be thinking they are a green company

zolablue25

Dustangle wrote: »

and which, in the interests of robbing its workers, is prepared to hold our nation to ransom while carrying out a lock-out.

OK I'm now confused. Unite members have called a strike and its the company that are causing a lockout? If the workers didn't vote to strike the plant would remain open. How exactly is the company holding the nation to ransom and why isn't it Unite that are holding the nation to ransom? Somebody appears to be looking at this through red tinted spectacles brother.

Dustangle

According to BBC News the UK holds 70 days of fuel in reserve which will be sufficient to cover the month that Ineos expects Grangemouth to be out of action. The UK has nine oil refineries, with Grangemouth providing about 10% of the total refinery capacity.

People should put their energies into supporting the Unite members defending their pensions, especially since the Union has got 97% support.

Dustangle

zolablue25 wrote: »

OK I'm now confused. Unite members have called a strike and its the company that are causing a lockout? If the workers didn't vote to strike the plant would remain open. How exactly is the company holding the nation to ransom and why isn't it Unite that are holding the nation to ransom? Somebody appears to be looking at this through red tinted spectacles brother.

THe Unite members are taking strike action because this multinational company has plundered the £40m pension fund provided by BP, and are trying to cut the value of existing workers' pensions and slash them for new workers, in order to fund their purchase. It is robbery and the nation ought always to be on the side of workers, not billionaire robbers. all that the company needs to do to stop the strike is drop their plans to steal workers' pensions. If they can't make a reasonable profit in the oil business with prices skyrocketing because of increasing demand, then they should sell up to someone who can.

Dustangle

anewman wrote: »

We ought to get the refinery workers to strike over taxation on fuel, looks like there's no legal interventions designed to stop that. Although lorry drivers are supposedly terrorists or something.

If anything, tax on fuel should go up not down. There are already enough cars, and the number will undoubtedly increase not reduce, because car use is more affordable to more people than ever before. Taxation will deter at least some unnecessary trips, and encourage the use of more efficient cars. It will also help to pay the continuing cost of huge increases in public spending in the past ten years.

devizes18193

zolablue25 wrote: »

OK I'm now confused. Unite members have called a strike and its the company that are causing a lockout? If the workers didn't vote to strike the plant would remain open. How exactly is the company holding the nation to ransom and why isn't it Unite that are holding the nation to ransom? Somebody appears to be looking at this through red tinted spectacles brother.

How many poor oil companies are there , Less then 1 i would of thought , This one is messing with the workers pensions , their future is you will , so the workers voted to go and use the only wepon they have a strike , could the company of safe garuded the pension , more then likely yes . There fore the company is at fault as the union it seems tried to play nice to no avail , how else could it of gone down

pinkfluffybabe

Dustangle wrote: »

If anything, tax on fuel should go up not down. There are already enough cars, and the number will undoubtedly increase not reduce, because car use is more affordable to more people than ever before. Taxation will deter at least some unnecessary trips, and encourage the use of more efficient cars. It will also help to pay the continuing cost of huge increases in public spending in the past ten years.

Ideally yes, but public transport is so poor and so costly that there are no real alternatives for many folks. Why should people with no other option be priced off the road?

The huge increases in public spending should be investigated for value for money. If anything MP wages and 'expenses' should be slashed vigourously - that would help the public purse.

goldspanners

Dustangle wrote: »

If anything, tax on fuel should go up not down. There are already enough cars, and the number will undoubtedly increase not reduce, because car use is more affordable to more people than ever before. Taxation will deter at least some unnecessary trips, and encourage the use of more efficient cars. It will also help to pay the continuing cost of huge increases in public spending in the past ten years.

im sorry but i think this is bulls*it.
i recently priced train tickets and filghts from glasgow to london in july,the flights for both me and my girlfriend were £150,then transfers etc..
the train tickets were £27 each from glasgow to london,but from london to glasgow it was £127 each.
i have decided it is much easier and cheaper to drive to the hotel in london,park the car and then use public transport when we are there.
when public transport comes into line with motoring all the better,but the way we are going just now it is the opposite,motoring is having to be more expensive to make public transport look cheap.

anewman

Dustangle wrote: »

Taxation will deter at least some unnecessary trips, and encourage the use of more efficient cars.

Not really. Why spend £8k+ on an efficient car (very few efficient cars come under this price) when you can get an ineffiient car for £200. You just price people out or force them to keep more polluting vehicles on the road as they cannot afford to buy a more efficent car when, at the end of the day, they need to use the car to get to work and more efficient cars are so expensive.

Of course if there were no fuel taxation tomorrow and petrol was 25p a litre, the roads would fill up and people would drive themselves senseless which would pollute more. However, there does need to be a more sensible balance between taking as much money as possible off motorists before they start complaining, and the actual need for taxation. They'd be taxing people for breathing if they could get away with it.

Fuel taxation and blaming it on green issues is just the easy way out to make more revenue for a badly managed government - as it's one of the taxes where people will just pay (unfortunately).