Chance of being pregnant - do I go ahead with it? How do benefits work

vaio

fac73 wrote: »

Yet if someone leaves

4% of 0 = 0...

Very true but the post was about post 12 which suggested that the OP get a job to get SMP.

This is fine if she tells her prospective employer she is pregnant, bordering on theft if she doesn’t

daphne_descends

vaio wrote: »

Very true but the post was about post 12 which suggested that the OP get a job to get SMP.

This is fine if she tells her prospective employer she is pregnant, bordering on theft if she doesn’t

You'll find the law disagrees with you somewhat. If you were my employer my pregnancy would be none of your business until I was 25 weeks.

How is theft to receive something you are entitled to?

I am sure some people in this country hate women, children, and women who have children!

Sarahsaver

fac73 wrote: »

You'll find the law disagrees with you somewhat. If you were my employer my pregnancy would be none of your business until I was 25 weeks.

How is theft to receive something you are entitled to?

I am sure some people in this country hate women, children, and women who have children!

You have to tell them @ 20 weeks I thought??? There are also health and safety implications. you are legally entitled to a risk assessment but you cannot gett hat if you do not tell them you are pg!

I would no WAY be able to conceal my pregnancy that long!!!;) Not being a well cushioned figure to start with I think its pretty obvious now and I am 17 weeks.

daphne_descends

Sarahsaver wrote: »

You have to tell them @ 20 weeks I thought??? There are also health and safety implications. you are legally entitled to a risk assessment but you cannot gett hat if you do not tell them you are pg!

I would no WAY be able to conceal my pregnancy that long!!!;) Not being a well cushioned figure to start with I think its pretty obvious now and I am 17 weeks.

Yes you're right, if you don't tell them, no risk assessment, but that is up to the individual depending on the type of job. It is 25 weeks now, maybe it changed? I told at 6 weeks though because I couldn't face lying - but I kept it very quiet until after the scan.

vaio

fac73 wrote: »

You'll find the law disagrees with you somewhat. If you were my employer my pregnancy would be none of your business until I was 25 weeks.

How is theft to receive something you are entitled to?

I am sure some people in this country hate women, children, and women who have children!

A member of staff getting pregnant is fine, a pregnant woman taking a job just so she can get SMP & the other benefits is not.

I think a woman who takes a job knowing she was pregnant and didn’t tell her prospective employer is on very thin ice. If I was the employer I’d sack her just as I would if I found out she’d told any other significant lie during the recruitment process.

I hope the misogyny jibe is not aimed at me personally, if it is it falls foul of the “be nice to mse members” rule apart from being completely wrong as my OH, DS1 & 2, DD and two grandkids will testify.

daphne_descends

vaio wrote: »

A member of staff getting pregnant is fine, a pregnant woman taking a job just so she can get SMP & the other benefits is not.

I think a woman who takes a job knowing she was pregnant and didn’t tell her prospective employer is on very thin ice. If I was the employer I’d sack her just as I would if I found out she’d told any other significant lie during the recruitment process.

I hope the misogyny jibe is not aimed at me personally, if it is it falls foul of the “be nice to mse members” rule apart from being completely wrong as my OH, DS1 & 2, DD and two grandkids will testify.

No, it wasn't personal :rolleyes:

If you did that it would be unfair dismissal. Are you not aware of employment law?

If I was, say, 5 weeks pregnant and applied for a job at your 'small business' why would my pregnancy be any of your business? Perhaps I have suffered miscarriages in the past, am scared of it happening again, so don't want to talk about it. Perhaps it was unplanned and perhaps I was not even sure of going ahead with the pregnancy.

Please tell me why this has anything to do with you?

daphne_descends

Vaio, since we're being hypothetical, would you prefer it if I lived off of the tax you pay for the 9 months of my pregnancy and beyond?

tigtag02

vaio wrote: »

Very true but the post was about post 12 which suggested that the OP get a job to get SMP.

This is fine if she tells her prospective employer she is pregnant, bordering on theft if she doesn’t

Absolute twaddle

And besides ~ if she was already pregnant when she was employed regardless of whether she *told* or not she would NOT be entitled to SMP so the advice is actually irrelevant.

daphne_descends

tigtag02 wrote: »

Absolute twaddle

And besides ~ if she was already pregnant when she was employed regardless of whether he *told* or not she would NOT be entitled to SMP so the advice is actually irrelevant.

To get SMP you must have been:

• Employed by your employer into the qualifying week which is the 15th week before the week your baby is due.

tigtag02

fac73 wrote: »

To get SMP you must have been:

• Employed by your employer into the qualifying week which is the 15th week before the week your baby is due.

I dont know where you have quoted this from fac but its wrong.

To qualify you must have been employed for 26 weeks before the 15th week before the baby is due.

Trust me, its my living!!