Chance of being pregnant - do I go ahead with it? How do benefits work

daphne_descends

The bit that says you can sack someone for being pregnant.

vaio

fac73 wrote: »

The bit that says you can sack someone for being pregnant.

Now who is being delusional, obviously you can't sack someone for being pregnant.

The whole point of my posts (go back and read them) has been that you can sack someone for not telling the truth during the recruitment process.

liney

http://www.ivillage.co.uk/workcareer/workrights/matrights/qas/0,,186_163210,00.html

Whatever your legal pack/contract says, it isn't worth the paper it's written on if the contents are illegal. You can't pay someone less than the NMW just because they sign to say it's ok, for example.

Spendless

vaio wrote: »

Now who is being delusional, obviously you can't sack someone for being pregnant.

The whole point of my posts (go back and read them) has been that you can sack someone for not telling the truth during the recruitment process.

oops- thanked instead of quoted -lol.
Then don't you have to go back to what I said, you don't have to disclose the info (by law) and you can't ask.

O/T but I have no intention of telling a future employer if I have kids and the ages of them, and I decided this after I was asked at interview how reliable my mil was:rolleyes: (I got an apology;) ). The day my husband tells me he is asked about his children and their childcare arrangements whilst interviewed for a job, is the day I'll change my mind.:p

vaio

Spendless wrote: »

oops- thanked instead of quoted -lol.
Then don't you have to go back to what I said, you don't have to disclose the info (by law) and you can't ask…….

thanked you back

Which law are you referring to that says you don’t have to disclose? Are you saying that pre-employment medical questionnaires or examinations are unlawful or can be lied to without consequences? What about in-service occupational heath assessments?

vaio

liney wrote: »

http://www.ivillage.co.uk/workcareer/workrights/matrights/qas/0,,186_163210,00.html

Whatever your legal pack/contract says, it isn't worth the paper it's written on if the contents are illegal. You can't pay someone less than the NMW just because they sign to say it's ok, for example.

Thanks for the link…..the point I am making is neatly covered in the second paragraph……, “If you’re directly asked the question, then there could be legal implications if you lie”

These legal consequences are the ones I was talking about previously i.e. being fairly dismissed for telling lies (NOT repeat NOT for being pregnant).

It is arguable that under some circumstances it would be discriminatory to ask about pregnancy, however the same legal consequences would apply if the question was “do you have medical conditions which might affect your ability to fully perform your duties” and you didn’t reveal your pregnancy (or chronic bad back, colour-blindness, epilepsy etc etc).

mommamoney

If you want a baby the money will not matter. You will get by and make it work. Get rid of the dog and save on the dog food , vets bills, pet insurance etc. I know people see pets as part of the family but if you find it cold hearted saying get rid of the dog, think how cold hearted it is saying you want a baby but you may take the pill for finacial reasons. If you and your partner want a child and you are pregnant, have the child. This web site is great for money making ideas and ways to save. As long as ou don't intend on buying baby dior and all that over priced baby stuff (diamond encrusted dummies etc) you will find away. If you want to work and like kids you could train whilst your pregnant to do some kind of childcare qualification. This could be from your own home as a self employed childmider or at a nursery. You can provide childcare for your child whilst earning at the same time and be around your child in the early years. That's just one option.

liney

vaio wrote: »

Thanks for the link…..the point I am making is neatly covered in the second paragraph……, “If you’re directly asked the question, then there could be legal implications if you lie”

These legal consequences are the ones I was talking about previously i.e. being fairly dismissed for telling lies (NOT repeat NOT for being pregnant).

It is arguable that under some circumstances it would be discriminatory to ask about pregnancy, however the same legal consequences would apply if the question was “do you have medical conditions which might affect your ability to fully perform your duties” and you didn’t reveal your pregnancy (or chronic bad back, colour-blindness, epilepsy etc etc).

Pregnancy is not an illness. If i was applying for an office job (for example) being pregnant would in no way stop me performing duties, so there would be no argument about me 'disclosing' my condition. Also: "although at the same time, you may well have some recourse against the interviewer for asking the question in the first place" (from my link)

If i wasn't showing, then how would you prove i knew i was pregnant? Maybe i didn't know yet. You are on very thin ice with this one i'm afraid.

Spendless

vaio wrote: »

thanked you back

Which law are you referring to that says you don’t have to disclose? Are you saying that pre-employment medical questionnaires or examinations are unlawful or can be lied to without consequences? What about in-service occupational heath assessments?

The law mentioned on here that says you don't have to inform your employer of pregnancy until you are x weeks pregnant.

Now if the job requires you to do something you *can't* (shouldn't do) in pregnancy such as eat soft cheese (eg brie) and someone tells you they can do that and later says they can't cos they are pregnant but didn't mention it. Then I think you would have grounds for dismissal.

pamelab21

mommamoney wrote: »

If you want a baby the money will not matter. You will get by and make it work. Get rid of the dog and save on the dog food , vets bills, pet insurance etc. I know people see pets as part of the family but if you find it cold hearted saying get rid of the dog, think how cold hearted it is saying you want a baby but you may take the pill for finacial reasons. quote]

Sorry if I offend when I say this but its attitudes like this that give us cat and dog homes that are bursting at the seams and healthy animals having to be put down just because the owners don't want them any more. A pet is a lifetime commitment as well.