TV Licence article Discussion

Paul_Varjak

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Or, more accurately, there's a person they refer to as Pipa Doubtfire.

Whether that's her real name, is another question.

Her full name is Pipa Estelle Doubtfire. She was born in 1965 and is a director of DSHS Ltd - a non-trading company whose registered address is at BBC headquarters in Wood Lane, London.

She is also registered with Companies House at the same address and you can find her address on 192.com - at least for 2002, which was just before the edited version of the Electoral Roll appeared.

If she does not exist then someone at the BBC will have to account for creating a fictitious director and for registering that fictitious person on the Electoral Roll!

victor2

Paul_Varjak wrote: »

Her full name is Pipa Estelle Doubtfire. She was born in 1965 and is a director of DSHS Ltd - a non-trading company whose registered address is at BBC headquarters in Wood Lane, London.

She is also registered with Companies House at the same address and you can find her address on 192.com - at least for 2002, which was just before the edited version of the Electoral Roll appeared.

If she does not exist then someone at the BBC will have to account for creating a fictitious director and for registering that fictitious person on the Electoral Roll!

Are you sure it's not Robin Williams in drag? He's done it before you know...

:rotfl:

anotherbaldrick

She is the person I e-mailed when Capita were being particularly stupid (even for Capita ) about a year ago. The nonsense suddenly ceased and I got an apology from ThickC. I assumed she kicked rrrses.

Paul_Varjak

victor2 wrote: »

Are you sure it's not Robin Williams in drag? He's done it before you know...

:rotfl:

I doubt it.

Andy_L

Cornucopia wrote: »

You're entitled to your view.

Personally, I think most people in receipt of that letter from a position of innocence would find it dishonest and offensive.

Which statements in the letter are untrue then?

Cornucopia

Andy_L wrote: »

Which statements in the letter are untrue then?

Most of it....

tvl wrote:

You have not responded to our previous letters.

In many cases, people have already responded, and even if they haven't they are under no obligation to do so.

tvl wrote:

We want to ensure that you have the information you need before a hearing is set at your local court.

No hearing is set, nor could be set without evidence, which they do not have. Note the use of the word "need" to give that little bit of extra certainty to what is in reality a totally unfounded comment.

tvl wrote:

Please read the information below carefully, and keep for your records

There is no hearing, so why would I want to read it, or keep it?

tvl wrote:

You will be allowed to take it in to Court with you.

Talking further about court as a certainty, when there is no hearing set.


It's sad that an organisation like the BBC not only sends this offensive nonsense, but presumably, being the BBC, it's been through umpteen levels of management who have all exercised flawed judgement in approving it.

Let's rewrite it accurately...

You have not responded to our previous letters, though you are under no obligation to do so. We're sending you some general information that might become relevant in the event that you are prosecuted at some point in the future, though we have no reason to suspect or assume that that will ever happen.

You may dispose of this information as you see fit. If you no longer want to receive these letters, you may tell us, and we will respect your wishes.

Paul_Varjak

As soon as you read the words "THE LEGAL OCCUPIER" or "DEAR SIR OR MADAM" in any letter from TVL you know you can ignore the rest of the letter.

TVL cannot get a summons in the name of "THE LEGAL OCCUPIER" or "DEAR SIR OR MADAM" so, unless you tell them your name, they really have no powers whatsoever!

I stopped paying my TV Licence because I used the TV so little that giving up that one small pleasure was no hardship when my income drop dramatically.

I now have enough income to pay for a TV licence but knowing what I know now about the way the BBC attempts to enforce the law on innocent people I have no desire to pay for any TV licence in future. I will content myself with catch-up TV over the internet.

If and only if I learn that the BBC does not chase innocent people, would I ever consider buying a licence again.

plaidparty

do i need a TVL if i do not watch any TV and only watch netlfix or mlb/nfl tv. The games shown live on sky are blacked out so therefore as they have the exclusive rights they are not shown on any other UK networks.

therefore i only watch live games on my computer that are not available on uk tv.

Cornucopia

plaidparty wrote: »

do i need a TVL if i do not watch any TV and only watch netlfix or mlb/nfl tv. The games shown live on sky are blacked out so therefore as they have the exclusive rights they are not shown on any other UK networks.

therefore i only watch live games on my computer that are not available on uk tv.

No - you don't need a licence for this.

Paul_Varjak

plaidparty wrote: »

do i need a TVL if i do not watch any TV and only watch netlfix or mlb/nfl tv. The games shown live on sky are blacked out so therefore as they have the exclusive rights they are not shown on any other UK networks.

therefore i only watch live games on my computer that are not available on uk tv.

Here are two quotes from the BBC website to help you decide...



A TV Licence is a legal permission to install or use television equipment to receive (i.e. watch or record) live TV programmes, regardless of which channel you're watching, which device you are using (TV, computer, laptop, mobile phone or any other), and how you receive them (terrestrial, satellite, cable, via the internet or any other way).



Do I need a TV Licence?

In the UK, Channel Islands and Isle of Man, you need a TV Licence if you use equipment to watch or record TV programme services as they're being shown on TV (including foreign satellite services).

This includes use of the following:

Television set
Digital box
DVD or video recorder
PC or laptop
Mobile phone

You only need one TV Licence per household, even if you use more than one of the devices listed above. A TV Licence costs £145.50 for colour TV, and £49.00 for black and white. Watching TV without a valid licence is illegal. If you are watching TV without a valid licence, you risk prosecution and a fine of up to £1,000 (this fine varies in Guernsey and Jersey). See payment methods for information on all the different ways you can buy a TV Licence.