Council house entitlement!!!

MissMoneypenny

barnaby-bear wrote: »

Actually there are different rules for the ascension countries (i.e. the eastern european ones - most are not *yet* eligible)

http://england.shelter.org.uk/advice/advice-8240.cfm
"People from most EU/EEA countries will be eligible, but there are restrictions if you are from an A8 or A2 country."

Thanks for the link.I'll read it all tonight.

MissMoneypenny

MrsE wrote: »

What about a married couple who have no children or fetility issues & have no children.
What about them?

I don't think that the £4,000 benefits that someone on here said that 2 adults on minimum wages and one child would get, will mean that the parents have made a profit. Children cost a lot of money.

It will be easier and cheaper, for two adults with no children.

They can move to a cheaper area as they are not tied in with schools.
They can work longer hours (as they won't have a child to look after).
They have time to do a degree with the Open University and may be able to get financial help with the this if they check with the OU.
If they don't fancy the degree route, they can can retrain at a local college in the evenings as they have time (no children and no child minding fees). They could even join the same course - plumbing, electrician -anything that gets them off minimum wage.

neverdespairgirl

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

I think you will find that EU citizens have the same rights as the British in the UK, as we are all part of the EU.

I did read of a case on the Internet on a government site, where the government successfully won an appeal made by a Spanish family, as they wanted to be housed in Britain.

There is a difference in law between the A8 EU states, who joined more recently (such as Poland) and the old EU states, such as Spain.

emsywoo123

MrsE wrote: »

I think very few mums can have the luxury of being a SAHM these days.
Those on benefits & those with rich husbands, those at the bottom & those at the top.
The rest of us in the middle just struggle on.

Please can you explain the "those at the bottom and those at the top"

Scousebird_2

I think some of the comments on here are quite mean to those who are just looking for advice.

It's traumatic enough going through an application for a council house, never mind living in one as to be fair-you have to take what you're given and the areas are never usually fantastic-but they are okay and if you get one, i've not met anyone who hasever not been grateful.

I grew up in council housing all my life, and I had a difficult upbringing. I tried to get a council house for 3 years when I had to leave home at 16-I got a job leaving school and my Mum could not afford to have me living there as she cares for my disabled sister and cant work-but she would of lost money so I had to leave.

But aside from that-I was priority need but was never offered accommodation. I found my own room in a hostel run by a housing association and I was at the time left with £30 a week to myself after I had paid my rent.

I am now in a stable home and have been for two years-last year I lived n my own two bed house-privately rented and yes it was a bloody hard struggle-but bearing in mind-I have no dependents-GOD HELP ME IF I DID BECAUSE I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM WITH THE OVERCROWDING ISSUE ETC-I lived in it all the way thru childhood and in B&B accommodation.

For those posting and saying mean things about people here-it is so easy to pass comment and make judgements on people because they are trying to make lives more comfortable for their family-the person who has 4 teenage children-they should be allowed a 4 bed house because you can't expect them to share at that age-and when it's mixed sex-it's not legally allowed anyway!

I think unless you have experienced the hardship of some of the posters here, you should have a little consideration for how they may feel-they have come on here for support and advice and not to recieve hurtful comments about how much they are 'supposedly' a leech on the government.

All i'll say is i'm glad they are utilising my tax and I am in someway helping support society because I have to fight to have my bins emptied-so if the council are giving housing to people who otherwise could not afford to live privatley then good bloody on them!

I could physically not afford to rent on my own anymore and now live with my partner. Some of us in the world are what I consider to be fortunate enough to be able to live privatley-but even then, you have to go through so many checks to rent and I can see how that puts families off, who are better suited to council huosing because of affordability and security-they are entitled to this because they are British Citizens-not because of how much they put in the pot, because it's irrelavant-they are human beings and should be treated as such so please have some consideration is all I would say and be mindful of other peoples circumstances-because one day, it could be you on here looking for support. My life has taught me not to judge, and to never assume what's round the corner!

MissMoneypenny

slipthru wrote: »

As the housing market is no longer on the up and the easy credit has dried up how do you propose these people on a low salary save up the deposit needed to buy a property?

The same we use to have to do - save up. Take a second job. Increase your income and decrease your outgoings.

100% and 125% mortgages were always going to be trouble in a falling market, but a lot of people thought houses could only go up. Not sure why they thought this. All this easy credit has been a bad thing imo.

The housing market "no longer on the up" is a good thing for most people. The lack of money with the credit crunch, makes it even more likely that house prices are going to go back down to where they should be. The UK housing market has been heavily overvalued in recent years.

MissMoneypenny

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

There is a difference in law between the A8 EU states, who joined more recently (such as Poland) and the old EU states, such as Spain.

I'll read the shelter link tonight, unless you have time to give a quick run down of it?

SmellyOldSock

We would love a council/housing association property, why? For the main reason it'd be sercuity for us as a family. Our new LL has given us a 3 year lease, which is great, and it gives me a bit of peace of mind.

The other point I'd like to make is why are we turning into a nation of 'not sharing'. When I was a child to get to my brothers bedroom he had to walk thru mine, it was never a problem, we shared! Is this a new concept I wonder?!?!? My husband is the 2nd youngest of 10 children, so he knows all about sharing. Even though they had a 3 bed house, his parents slept downstairs! 12 people in 3 bed house and we think we're all hard done by! (ok thats going back 20 odd years)

Even now our bedroom is everyones, we don't shut doors, our youngest sleep in our room if they want, the older 3 share, because they have to. I think it helps build better relationships between them all.

Yes it is nice to have your own space, but at the end of the day I'd rather have a close relationship to my children.

best wishes
Charlotte

neas

MrsE wrote: »

We really need to get away from this whole council housing is a gift/charity/benefit thing.

Housing benefit is a benefit, having a council house is a non profit making rental. So no landlord is raking it in, but the tenants are paying their share.

I think it is really rude to keep insisting that people in council houses or housing !!! houses are living off tax payers.

People on housing benefits are getting tax payers money, but people who pay their rent are not getting subsidised.

When a council house needs work doing... it gets it done by the council... Like reroffing, extensions, double glazing, kitchen refurbs.

Then after 10 years they offer to sell the council house to the occupant... for below market value.

How is this a fair system? Wouldn't it best to have them perpetually renting (0 profit style) then give them a house?.

All the work that was done before they bought it was paid by the council BY the people. You cant honestly believe the reduced rent council tenants may pay would cover building refurbs like roofing? An entire street of council houses gets done at the same time. Its madness. Then the investment gets transfered to a council tenant for a much reduced price to buy the property. Selling it at a loss.

Tell me again how it isn't a subsidied system? How are new houses purchased? Oh... yea with council payers money.

MrsE_2

emsywoo123 wrote: »

Please can you explain the "those at the bottom and those at the top"

The financial chain. Those on benefits & the big buck earners.