URGENT: Cancel your tax disc now.

meester

Toiletduck wrote: »

Hi,

I am one of the unfortunate ones being completely done over by this tax change. Whilst I use the train to travel to work each day paying an extortionate ammount for an appaling and deteriating service, for weekend and leasure use I drive a V6 golf which is fine for me as I only drive around 5000 miles a year. I currently pay £210 a year in road tax which will go up to £440 a year!!:mad: :mad: Id sell the car but who exactly is going to want to buy it now unless I sell it at a massive discount no doubt taking a huge loss on a car Ive had less than a year.

Anyway my tax renewal is due in September this year, it seems that I should therefore buy a 6 months renewal and then get the 12 months disc in MArch next year putting off the price rise until March 2010. The only thing Im wandering is that the price rises are quoted to come in in March 2009, therefore wouldnt you actually need to get a disc starting in February 2009 rather than MArch 2009 as the guide suggests?

Do you mean it expires on August 31 or September 30?

If it is August 31, you just need to buy the six-month disc.

If it is September 30, you should buy a new tax disc online today, and send the old one off for a refund (has to be received before April 1st).

If you mean the R32, I think it is only 255g of CO2, which is actually just in the second-top band, so you will actually pay £410?

meester

EddietheEagle wrote: »

Hi, tax now is 210 which rises to 300 for 2009. Thanks

You would save £50 by buying a new tax disc back-dated from March 1st (you can buy online), and claiming the refund for unused months.

Or save £34.50 by buying a six-month disc.

Toiletduck

meester wrote: »

Do you mean it expires on August 31 or September 30?

If it is August 31, you just need to buy the six-month disc.

If it is September 30, you should buy a new tax disc online today, and send the old one off for a refund (has to be received before April 1st).

If you mean the R32, I think it is only 255g of CO2, which is actually just in the second-top band, so you will actually pay £410?

Hi,

It expires on August the 31st so a 6 month disc would take me to 28th Feb next year, as far as I have read the new rates come in for March next year so wouldnt that mean the renewal then would be at the new rate not the current one?

I would have thought Id need the renewal to be due in February to benefit from the current rates?

Its not the R32 its the smaller engined V6 4motion which annoyingly somehow emits more CO2 than the newer R32. What is even more annoying is that if the car was a year older it would be classified under the old system and I would only have to pay less than half the tax rate!

Just to annoy me even more my previous car was a pre 2001 1.6 which was a mere 50cc above the higher limit on the old system even though its CO2 levels would have put it in one of the cheaper bands on the current post 2001 system. What a crazy system!

The whole thing is ridiculous, fair enough if you want to impose it on new cars but how you can do it retrospectively is outragous.

meester

Toiletduck wrote: »

Hi,

It expires on August the 31st so a 6 month disc would take me to 28th Feb next year, as far as I have read the new rates come in for March next year so wouldnt that mean the renewal then would be at the new rate not the current one?

They come in April 1 2009.

Just to annoy me even more my previous car was a pre 2001 1.6 which was a mere 50cc above the higher limit on the old system even though its CO2 levels would have put it in one of the cheaper bands on the current post 2001 system. What a crazy system!

The whole thing is ridiculous, fair enough if you want to impose it on new cars but how you can do it retrospectively is outragous.

I had that as well. I got hammered for owning a 90bhp Megane 1.6

MarkyMarkD

A government which seriously cared about the under-privileged would have kept the tax for older (pre-2001) cars at the lower (sub-1549cc) rate for all such old cars, not charged those over 1549cc loads more than newer, more expensive and not necessarily more carbon-friendly cars.

We too have a 1598cc Renault and get penalised hugely for it being pre-2001.

Toiletduck

MarkyMarkD wrote: »

A government which seriously cared about the under-privileged would have kept the tax for older (pre-2001) cars at the lower (sub-1549cc) rate for all such old cars, not charged those over 1549cc loads more than newer, more expensive and not necessarily more carbon-friendly cars.

We too have a 1598cc Renault and get penalised hugely for it being pre-2001.

The stupid thing is that under the current system there is actually an incentive to go out and buy a large engined pre 2001 car as the tax will be less than half of what it will be under the new system. This leads to the slightly bizzare situation that once everyone has twigged onto this presumably a one year older version of my golf is actually going to be worth more than my newer car! :mad:

jackieb

MarkyMarkD wrote: »

A government which seriously cared about the under-privileged would have kept the tax for older (pre-2001) cars at the lower (sub-1549cc) rate for all such old cars, not charged those over 1549cc loads more than newer, more expensive and not necessarily more carbon-friendly cars.

We too have a 1598cc Renault and get penalised hugely for it being pre-2001.

I don't understand why there's such a huge difference. I have a 2002 Audi. Next year the tax will be £260 for 12 months. If it had been registered before 1/3/01, it would only be £185. It's not like we have a car that's so much newer than a 2001 model.

Date of Registration 6 Months 12 Months Band
9 Dec 2000 – 1 Mar 2001 £101.75 £185.00
1 Mar 2001 – 25 Oct 2004 £143.00 £260.00 J

Toiletduck

jackieb wrote: »

I don't understand why there's such a huge difference. I have a 2002 Audi. Next year the tax will be £260 for 12 months. If it had been registered before 1/3/01, it would only be £185. It's not like we have a car that's so much newer than a 2001 model.

Date of Registration 6 Months 12 Months Band
9 Dec 2000 – 1 Mar 2001 £101.75 £185.00
1 Mar 2001 – 25 Oct 2004 £143.00 £260.00 J

Thats not as bad as mine:

Date of Registration 6 Months 12 MonthsBand

5 Jan 2000 – 1 Mar 2001 £101.75 £185.00
1 Mar 2001 – 1 Jan 2004 £242.00 £440.00M

Thats a staggering £255 a year more for owning a post 01/0/01 but otherwise identical car.

jackieb

Toiletduck wrote: »

Thats not as bad as mine:

Date of Registration 6 Months 12 MonthsBand

5 Jan 2000 – 1 Mar 2001 £101.75 £185.00
1 Mar 2001 – 1 Jan 2004 £242.00 £440.00M

Thats a staggering £255 a year more for owning a post 01/0/01 but otherwise identical car.

I should count myself lucky! It's not very fair. Why don't they just start off doing it with brand new cars?

Dustykitten

Going out in the dark to see when my tax disc expires!

I'm back - expires 7/08 so I will go for the six month optition as it is easiest - thanks everso much OP for this - I'd never of thought of it.