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URGENT: Cancel your tax disc now.

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  • MarkyMarkD
    MarkyMarkD Posts: 9,912 Forumite
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    This is good advice from the OP.

    For a long time now I have done the "get new tax, cancel existing tax" routine whenever I've changed cars, to make sure that tax always expires on 28/29 February.

    It means that you are always renewing your tax just before the price increases.

    But under the new rules, you supposedly won't be able to do it because you won't be able to surrender your old tax. But as I read it, those new rules are actually ineffective for anyone who can do without their car for a couple of days, as you can surrender your tax disc, declare the car SORN (off road), keep it off road for a few days, and then tax it again. Job done! Ideal for when you go on holiday abroad or something like that.
  • meester
    meester Posts: 1,879 Forumite
    ok
    help me i'm being realy thick
    i have a ford exporer 4l
    tax runs out april/2008
    what do i do
    1 cash in th old one
    2 wait till end of april

    also how much is it going to cost for 6/12 months
    thanks in advance

    also is there a link to what tax bands cars are

    Hi

    You need to find the CO2 output of your car. Also the age is relevant. Once you have found this you can check my spreadsheet. If your car dates before March 2006, then with such a big engine you will probably be looking at a jump from £210 to £440 of tax. If that's the case, then you should order a new tax disc online now, starting from March 1st 2008.
  • AHAR
    AHAR Posts: 984 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Combo Breaker
    I just found out what the new bands are going to be today...
    When I saw the increases, this technique soon sprang to mind.
    My car's CO2/km level is 203g meaning a £90 increase to £300 next year (~82% more than when I bought it in Dec. 2005)
    My current tax disc expires at the end of May. I think I'll just get a 6 month disc then a final £210 12 month one after that which will last me until I change the car probably.

    I'll definitely go for a car in a lower band next - which is what Mr. Darling wants me to do I suppose.[SIZE=-1][/SIZE]
  • meester
    meester Posts: 1,879 Forumite
    AHAR wrote: »
    I just found out what the new bands are going to be today...
    When I saw the increases, this technique soon sprang to mind.
    My car's CO2/km level is 203g meaning a £90 increase to £300 next year (~82% more than when I bought it in Dec. 2005)
    My current tax disc expires at the end of May. I think I'll just get a 6 month disc then a final £210 12 month one after that which will last me until I change the car probably.

    I'll definitely go for a car in a lower band next - which is what Mr. Darling wants me to do I suppose.

    The bands are fair enough, but making it retrospective is catastrophic for the environment - all those cars being written off and people buying new ones is a disaster - the carbon emitted in creating the cars is far higher.

    It's just another tax grab by Liebour, how is it useful for people to buy new cars instead of keeping the existing one another couple of years?
  • horace_2
    horace_2 Posts: 636 Forumite
    So dimwit Darling thinks that by labelling these tax increases `Green` we in the UK will save the planet and mankind. Some hope.

    It is a pity that the Indians, Chinese, Americans and the like who produce pollution on our behalf (we purchase their goods) are not taxed like us, or, is it the case that the extra revenue raised is not to save the planet but to fund the dreadful war in Iraq and Afganistan?
    I wonder what the `carbon footprint` is from these two conflicts but perhaps that doesn`t bother dimwit Darling.

    horace :confused:
  • meester
    meester Posts: 1,879 Forumite
    horace wrote: »
    So dimwit Darling thinks that by labelling these tax increases `Green` we in the UK will save the planet and mankind. Some hope.

    It is a pity that the Indians, Chinese, Americans and the like who produce pollution on our behalf (we purchase their goods) are not taxed like us, or, is it the case that the extra revenue raised is not to save the planet but to fund the dreadful war in Iraq and Afganistan?
    I wonder what the `carbon footprint` is from these two conflicts but perhaps that doesn`t bother dimwit Darling.

    horace :confused:

    The scuMPs should be taxed on their two homes producing so much CO2. And all the wind from the House of Commons is catastrophic for the environment.
  • goldspanners
    goldspanners Posts: 5,910 Forumite
    meester wrote: »
    The scuMPs should be taxed on their two homes producing so much CO2. And all the wind from the House of Commons is catastrophic for the environment.

    the amount of methane produced from the house of commons should be given back to the national grid for free!
    ...work permit granted!
  • goose
    goose Posts: 42 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Thanks OP, hadn't noticed this sting in the tail!

    A petition has been set up to protest about the retrospective application of the re-banding, if anyone wants to add themselves to it. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/UNFAIR-VED/
  • meester
    meester Posts: 1,879 Forumite
    AHAR wrote: »
    I just found out what the new bands are going to be today...
    When I saw the increases, this technique soon sprang to mind.
    My car's CO2/km level is 203g meaning a £90 increase to £300 next year (~82% more than when I bought it in Dec. 2005)
    My current tax disc expires at the end of May. I think I'll just get a 6 month disc then a final £210 12 month one after that which will last me until I change the car probably.

    Thanks for pointing this out.

    I have updated my original post + spreadsheet to point out the option for people whose tax expires in April, May, June, or July to buy a six-month tax disc and harvest some of the saving that way.

    Your saving works out at £34.50 (compared with £50 for re-taxing now, and claiming a refund for April and May), assuming that you will keep the car indefinitely, but in your case slightly more than that, because you obviously plan to sell the car.
  • meester
    meester Posts: 1,879 Forumite
    bump.......
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