Wibo night storage heaters

Cardew

netto wrote: »

I have had wibo heaters for 4 years. They are very efficient in the way they heat and have a good climate control system to stop wastage.They are low input storage heaters and hence only use 50% of the wattage of Night storage heaters, with the benefits of storage and temperature control working together. The heaters are better than Night storage. The cost of the system although expensive has proved to be a excellent heating.

Rubbish.

As stated above - they give out no more heat for the cost than any other heater, including a £20 fan heater or Granny's old 1/2/3/ bar fire.

Complete con!!

First post praising a system in a year old thread??

This is a money saving forum - not a money making forum.

P.S. Have you read the posts in this thread?

harryhound

I have noticed on the Dimplex site that the new models claim to be compliant with one of the new building codes.
(If anyone has a posting to a site that explains all this low carbon "sustainable" stuff let me know)
The wonderful new idea is that the night storge heaters must have a monitor that checks the outside temperature - presumably to override the user who had left the heaters set on full power during a warm night.
I had a gas central heating system that did something similar back in 1970, worked OK except when it was very windy because the house was not draught proof like modern buildings are supposed to be.

Owain_Moneysaver

harryhound wrote: »

I have noticed on the Dimplex site that the new models claim to be compliant with one of the new building codes.

They are slightly more energy efficient than independent older storage heaters and back-up heaters, because the two forms of heating are coordinated. There's not a lot in it though - a few % at best. And the higher cost of some of the heaters could buy quite a lot of even expensive electricity.

Energy efficiency does not necessarily mean cheaper to run: a decrease in off-peak kWh and an increase in peak kWh consumed can be fewer kWh (units of energy) in total, but if more of that energy is charged at peak rate the overall cost can rise.

Although Duoheat is a very good scheme for electric heating in new build, I'm not convinced the benefits would be worthwhile if replacing a perfectly good ordinary storage heater installation.

maxmycardagain

the nub of it is, whats the Kw of the appliance x how long is it on = the cost

a normal NSR on Economy 7 with correctly set timeswitch (so only off-peak 5p/unit) at 2.5Kw charging the whole 7 hours will cost 35p maximum per night

turn the charging down, and the heat release to low and that could half the cost

maxmycardagain

or as was put on another forum....

Wibo heaters are a complete rip off!?

£2000 for a plug-in electric heater!
Don't believe the salesmen. I know someone who invested in one of these ugly heaters and they are no more than a water filled plug-in heater at 10x the cost of a decent and well-proven oil-filled heater.
My question: how can these ruthless salesmen get away with this miss-selling?

Cardew

maxmycardagain wrote: »

the nub of it is, whats the Kw of the appliance x how long is it on = the cost

a normal NSR on Economy 7 with correctly set timeswitch (so only off-peak 5p/unit) at 2.5Kw charging the whole 7 hours will cost 35p maximum per night

turn the charging down, and the heat release to low and that could half the cost

Err - 7 hours x 2.5kW x 5p = 87.5p

You forgot the heater is 2.5kW!!

harryhound

I bought two of those second hand off Ebay for 100 GBP - mind you I had to go and collect them

harryhound

Owain_Moneysaver wrote: »

They are slightly more energy efficient than independent older storage heaters and back-up heaters, because the two forms of heating are coordinated. There's not a lot in it though - a few % at best. And the higher cost of some of the heaters could buy quite a lot of even expensive electricity.

Energy efficiency does not necessarily mean cheaper to run: a decrease in off-peak kWh and an increase in peak kWh consumed can be fewer kWh (units of energy) in total, but if more of that energy is charged at peak rate the overall cost can rise.

Although Duoheat is a very good scheme for electric heating in new build, I'm not convinced the benefits would be worthwhile if replacing a perfectly good ordinary storage heater installation.

I guess we will be seeing flats heated by those air conditioning units run in reverse - called Air Source Heat Pumps - in the future; in place of night storage heaters.

harryhound

Cardew wrote: »

Err - 7 hours x 2.5kW x 5p = 87.5p

You forgot the heater is 2.5kW!!

Don't forget the Value Added Tax.;)

thills

ASHP's are ideal for flats with no gas supply. Heat loss is just less than a house. Problem is the planning consent, every other flat in the block has to be notified, even if they are very remote from the installation. Rightly, those who could be affected by the noise should be consulted. Modern units are fairly quiet & when working hardest, winter, people tend to have windows closed. I am hoping to go this route, there are only 6 in my block, 3 would never be affected. None are objecting, 3 others are seriously interested in doing the same once they understand.