Desperatley NEED to lose a stone!!

dawnylou

haylibo wrote: »

Haylibo - What do you mean by stimulants? More info would be great!
GI & GL diets and the type really confuse me I know - so easily done!!

Stimulants would be foods which create a stress response i.e. produce adrenaline. Think coffee or choc to keep you awake, sugar, tea, fizzy drinks etc. They have the additional whammy of disturbing blood sugar balance. If your blood sugar peaks and troughs the dip creates a craving for more sugar (can PM if you need more detail still) so we find ourselves taking another fix despite our desperate desire to avoid those foods we are craving. The upshot is we think we are weak willed when in fact we are following a hormone imbalance involving insulin and adrenaline.
The liver is inherently involved in regulating the transfer of sugar into fat and back into energy and so a nice way to begin a diet may be to do a liver detox (if there is no danger of diabetes or any underlying liver condition). I am a fan of Patrick Holford as I've posted a few times. Although I am training in nutrition I am not at all qualified, my interest was sparked by having two autistic children who responded fantastically to a gluten and dairy free regime. From there I have read and read and studied the role of nutrition in many conditions and have fallen in love with Patrick Holford('s work lolol. He's quite dishy) as it is well written, innovative and makes sound sense.
I'll recommend a couple of his books but do check him out on Amazon. He also lectures so if you have spare cash and time it is a treat to see him talk so passionately and knowledgeably about what we eat. He really motivates you to want to treat your body well.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Holford-9-Day-Liver-Detox-Definitive/dp/0749927550/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1202671765&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=holford+gl+diet&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go

Sorry I can't shrink the links any further. Not good with the technical stuff. Of the second link the first book is most accessible for starting the diet but the second, with the pink cover, is the most comprehensive. I'm sure I've missed stuff out such as the effect sugar has on dopamine levels in the brain which creates addiction.....and other stuff about white flour etc but if you are interested and can get the books anywhere do give them a go. I have a copy of the first book bought for a christmas pressie which I decided was a little too non-festive to give to my friend so if you don't mind PMing your address I would happily send. Would understand if you are wary.

HTH, Hayles

I think the only stimulant I really have in my diet is one or two coffees a day - as you already worked out to keep myself awake as I am forever falling asleep!! lol
I don't use sugar - if I'm having coffee I use sweetener. I don't like fizzy drinks. I'll have a look into that book in the morning and see what I think.
Not really able to focus at the moment as falling asleep again!! :rotfl:

haylibo

Not really able to focus at the moment as falling asleep again!!
Aw, sleep tight. Coffee would count as would sweetener I'm afraid. Not the same calories as sugar but some research suggests it does affect blood sugar. Cereal bar may be low in fat but high in refined carbs (sugar), porridge is a great start as long as you don't wop in a HUGE 'nana and keep out the......sugar (you guessed right?) Low fat yoghurt is great as long as it doesn't contain any........... (let you fill in the blank) and dinner of salmon and potatoes is fantastic just be careful to limit the potatoes. Other foods which upset blood sugar...potatoes, parsnips, white flour, honey, most cereal particularly processed such as white rice. These need to be replaced by brown/wholewheat and be careful how you prepare your tatties. As a general rule, think of a plate and have one quarter protein, one quarter dense carbohydrate such as rice, potato, quinoa and the other half some nice veg particarly leafy stuff.
Do check out the book and any sites on GI or GL, very interesting to get into. My guess is it is the balance of what you are eating rather than the amount ( you seem particularly controlled).
BW
Hx

haylibo

Right, going to shut up and stop sounding like I'm lecturing lol.

Savvy_Sue

Nicki wrote: »

From what you have posted, it is your body shape which you are unhappy with.

That's what I was thinking too. And I wonder too if you are really the shape you describe? Or if it's partly in your mind? I have the opposite problem: I don't feel fat, I don't even think I LOOK fat, but I could do with losing 10" off my waist!

Now, is it just me, or is anyone else wondering whether dawnylou is getting good value for money from WeightWatchers? I don't know how long you've been going, but if you didn't realise your weight for height was 'healthy' rather than overweight, if you still thought losing a stone in a week was possible, and if you didn't realise weight can fluctuate - especially around the time of your period - from week to week ... well, what can I say?

I have never been to WW, maybe you are getting support that you find helpful, maybe I have unreasonable expectations of what you should get from the group leader. But if it doesn't include basic education of the kind I've picked up from reading women's magazines in the doctor's waiting room, I have to ask, is it VFM?

Oh, and the other thought which occurred to me: did you realise that as you burn fat and put on muscle, you can put on weight because muscle is denser than fat?

PasturesNew

1 pound of fat is 3500 calories.
There are 14 pounds in 1 stone.

3500 x 14 = 49,000 calories

So, to lose 49,000 calories in one week, would mean mathetmatically that you would have to exercise for 7,000 calories-worth per day.

If we ignore things like losing weight too quickly makes you lose muscle, not fat, then to achieve that you would have to bust a gut doing competition-level hard hard hard exercise for 14 hours solid without stopping whatsoever. But even if that were possible you'd have the other problem of having to take IN specific types of calories just to keep going. Marathon runners, for example, should take in up to 200 calories per hour while they're running. So at the end of the 14 hours, you'd have had to take in another 2800 calories, requiring another 5-6 hours to burn that off ... and so on.

Ergo: it's impossible to achieve safely, healthily or even mathematically.

ailuro2

Dawnylou- 10 stone 2 is perfect for your height.

Never mind what the magazines say- go ask a bloke what he'd prefer a woman to look like.

10st 2lbs is not fat,it is within healthy limits (body mass index)

Pear shapes are still pear shapes after they lose weight-just a smaller version.
There's no diet on this earth that will change the body shape you've been given. Dress to highlight your good points, wear dark colours on the less good bits, and if you're still hung up about it, then perhaps a visit to the doctor to discuss these issues is in order.

northernsal

Hi dawnylou,

I've found that the power of the mind is incredible when it comes to loosing weight. If you really want to do it, focus and you WILL and CAN do it.

You've got a great goal to inspire you, just imagine your fiance's face when he sees you gliding down the aisle lovely and trim. (Nothing tastes as good as being slim)

If you don't do exericse DAILY, you are really going to struggle to get it off, eating the right foods isn't enough. You need to do that exercise vid or some kind of CV work for at least 45 mins a day. Get that heart rate up, it'll be tough at first, but it will get easier.

Don't think of it as a diet, think of it as a new way of life to be healthy and fit. Stop obsessing about the weight. I would rather be fit and have a bit of a tummy than skinny with high blood pressure and clogged artieres and poor health.

Why don't you treat yourself to a personal trainer - yes I know it's expensive but there are deals are out there. at my local gym it's £25 per hour. I said to the trainer that works at the gym - look I'm not paying those corporate rates, How about I use you privately and pay you cash. Then I'm saving money and you're getting cash in hand and an extra client.

She charges me £12 per hour and is wonderful. Has educated me about fitness and as I know I'm seeing her every week, I don't want to let her down, so i exercise as much as I can in the week to improve my fitness ad tone up. I get off the bus 2 stops earlier, bring my trainers to work and go for a walk around the park. I walk to the shoops instead of driving and have Cut out all junk.

WHen I do want a treat, a jaffa cake or 2 finger kit kat is my treat. DOn't have wine - it dehydrates and is too calorific. Feed your body with as much fresh, quality food as you can. I also do a lovely exotic fruit slad and keep in the frige in a tupperware box and put some organic, low fat youghurt on it for a treat.

You don't have to spend a fortune on stuff, get some comfirtable baggy clothers, trainers and walk and walk. I'm normally very MSE but when it comes to spending money on my health, food and fitness, I refuse to compromise - you really can't put a price on your health.....

needmore75

Ditch the car and get a bike. I live in Cambridge which is very flat and cycle friendly, but I cycle 8 miles return journey a day (about 25 minutes each way). I have easily lost a stone since doing this cycle.(currently about 5ft 5 and 8 stone 6 pounds. It's a good long term plan. A stone in a week is tough. You'd have to probably adopt the practices of someone with an eating disorder to achieve that, which is clearly not advisable.

I was much bigger, I believe around 70kg. I did start going to the gym and it actually made me eat less as I hated it so much (the pain of exercise) that everytime I went to pork out, I thought of the amount of exercise I had to do to get rid of it, it did stop me.

I am definitely not one of those naturally thin people AT ALL. Doing that exercise means I save loads of cash on not spending a penny on transport, I can eat lots, but not junk and I feel much healthier and hopefully look it as well. I understand your panic, but you will get there. Don't be depressed about it! You will achieve it, but I completely understand how you feel. It's not nice to be down on yourself, but it's not forever, i promise!

yenners

i recently cut out sugar and bad carbohydrates from my diet (bye bye cakes, biscuits and chocolate), plus fucussed on cardio exercises at the gym, and lost 2kg in 2 weeks.

Have you tried spinning? It's good fun and burns lots of calories.

dawnylou

Savvy_Sue - Been looking at the No Diet Diet this morning.
Btw it's definately not in my mind - I would put pictures up but don't want to upset anyone!
I also need to say - I don't go to the Weight Watchers classes - I follow the diet plan and have all of the programme literature which I update every year. Every cook book I have is WW. But I don't have the money to do the classes.
I did think that about muscle - but just yesterday read in a magazine that that was a myth? Either way I don't think that is what is happening to me as I am seeing no difference in my figure at all!!

Netally - The Low GI Diet sounds good - from the example menu given.

Haylibo - Although the 2 suggestions above sound helpful I can't help but wonder if I should try the Liver Detox? I recently gave up alcohol so maybe a flush would help me out?
I use an average sized banana in my porridge and I use cinnamon rather than sugar or sweetener.
Ok - I am thick what is the blank to be filled in with the low fat yoghurt?
Thanks for all of your help so far!


Nicki - That's ok. I am just over sensitive.
I surely can't be in the 'normal' range!
I don't like the idea of weight training as I am worried I'll get all manly! lol
The only exercise I really do other than all of the walking os my workout DVDs which are all dance aerobics.
I used to go to the gym, but unfortunately I don't have the funds to go now.

I think it's more that I am sick and fed up of looking like this and it seems that more recently I am gaining more and more weight every week!

Ailuro2 - My Fiance just says he loves me the way I am. But I think it is important to love myself too. And I don't. I hate myself.
Most of the time I dress tottally in black. From head to toe. (He doesn't like that, says he likes to see me in a bit of colour)

Northernsal - I am definately going to raise the amount of exercise I am doing. I just need to try and keep my motivation up!!
I feel really low at the moment which is making it harder for me to push myself to do exercise.
There is no way I can afford a personal ytrainer (as much as I would absolutely love one!!!) I am paid on the 21st and by the time my bills and everything are paid I have nothing left by the end of the month!! Literally.

Needmore75 - No car to ditch! I can't drive! And if we need to go anywhere (shops or his mams or anything) we walk and take dogs at same time.
I'm glad to hear you feel well though and hopefully I will soon be able to join you in saying that!

Yenners - Cakes, biscuits and chocolates do not have a place in our home! :rotfl:
We tend not to have them in because if I have one of my 'down days' I will probably eat the lot!! :rotfl::rotfl:
What is spinning?