yet another whinge at the truly awful Vista thing.

wakandem

well if ms was uk based i would expect it to be farming data for the national advantage, but we can trust the usa, can't we?

Great for home use/ games but i don't recomend companies or governments taking it on.

aardvarkuk

I think the biggest problem with Vista are the users.

I know a lot of new users who are given Vista and basically dont know what to do with it, just the same for any OS but what really throws them is the UAC, its panic stations at the ready when an alert pops up.

robt_2

aardvarkuk wrote: »

I think the biggest problem with Vista are the users.

I know a lot of new users who are given Vista and basically dont know what to do with it, just the same for any OS but what really throws them is the UAC, its panic stations at the ready when an alert pops up.

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Its not rocket science, even for someone who has never used a computer before. Hardly panic stations at the ready.

aardvarkuk

robt wrote: »

Its not rocket science, even for someone who has never used a computer before. Hardly panic stations at the ready.

Thats what you think, I have had mates call me up asking what they should do, I suggest they buy a toaster instead.

superscaper

aardvarkuk wrote: »

Thats what you think, I have had mates call me up asking what they should do, I suggest they buy a toaster instead.

I do have to agree to an extent. Many laypeople are fine with computers, but I still continually get surprised by people that seem to just switch off their brains altogether at the point that they switch the computer on. I try as much as possible to go with a "what do you think that means" and "what do you think you should do" approach and if you force them to actually do it themselves it can be fine but they still need reassurance and handholding to do practically anything. I'm not sure I could ever be a tech support person as I don't think I'd really have the patience and would appear too flustered to people. (On second thoughts I think most tech support people actually are like that )

isofa

BillScarab wrote: »

There's an interesting compariosn of vulnerabilities in XP, Vista and OS X here pity it doesn't cover Linux as well.

I wouldn't really call that an "interesting" article, more a very poor bit of biased reporting, and written by someone without a handle on security critical holes found or any idea of the facts presented, one of the responses has a better perspective on things: http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12691-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=42392&messageID=784253&start=0
I'd be thankful it doesn't cover Linux too, can't imagine the review has even heard of it!

No OS is perfect, I use at least 3 different OSes on a regular basis. No one will ever release a 100% perfect system, there are billions of possibilities of users traversing through a system, impossible to test every eventuality.

Don't forget hundreds of other electronic devices, such as: modems, routers, mobile phones, digital cameras, freeview boxes/recorders etc, all have firmware updates released occasionally too, patching problems, adding minor new features etc.

superscaper

isofa wrote: »

I wouldn't really call that an "interesting" article, more a very poor bit of biased reporting, and written by someone without a handle on security critical holes found or any idea of the facts presented, one of the responses has a better perspective on things: http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12691-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=42392&messageID=784253&start=0
I'd be thankful it doesn't cover Linux too, can't imagine the review has even heard of it!

No OS is perfect, I use at least 3 different OSes on a regular basis. No one will ever release a 100% perfect system, there are billions of possibilities of users traversing through a system, impossible to test every eventuality.

Don't forget hundreds of other electronic devices, such as: modems, routers, mobile phones, digital cameras, freeview boxes/recorders etc, all have firmware updates released occasionally too, patching problems, adding minor new features etc.

I always liked how the old Acorns had their OS on a ROM chip. Not only practically instant booting but pretty damn secure if the OS can't be altered no matter how good the virus writer is.

BillScarab

isofa wrote: »

I wouldn't really call that an "interesting" article, more a very poor bit of biased reporting, and written by someone without a handle on security critical holes found or any idea of the facts presented, one of the responses has a better perspective on things: http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12691-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=42392&messageID=784253&start=0
I'd be thankful it doesn't cover Linux too, can't imagine the review has even heard of it!

I consider it interesting that XP had 34 vulnerabilities last year and Vista only had 20 yet people keep being advised to "upgrade" from Vista to XP.

It also shows that no OS is perfect.