We are being evicted, some advice please...... the date has arrived......

silvercar

supersavershal, blue_monkey has an absolute right to fight for a home for her family. If other families have needs then they too can fight for their entitlements, but it is the right thing for blue_monkey to fight for her own family.

The fact that council officials (paid for by our taxes BTW) can lie in order to abdicate themselves from responsibly housing someone who is clearly in need of her home is disgusting.

Throughout this thread blue_money shines out as someone who puts the needs of her family above her own personal needs. What she needs on this thread is support and advice to help her in her struggle, not people saying there may be others in greater need. If she lost the chance of a suitable home just because she didn't make her claim it could easily go to someone who knows how to play the system rather than someone in greater need.

I say again this thread is for supporting blue_monkey.

SingleSue

BM... I know and can understand completely what you are saying about friends (or the lack of them!) as I have exactly the same problem.... oh and how people can twist things to make themselves look better.

As I said before, if you want a friendly person to pm, rant at, get support from etc, don't hesitate to send me a pm.

supersavershal

silvercar wrote: »

supersavershal, blue_monkey has an absolute right to fight for a home for her family. If other families have needs then they too can fight for their entitlements, but it is the right thing for blue_monkey to fight for her own family.

The fact that council officials (paid for by our taxes BTW) can lie in order to abdicate themselves from responsibly housing someone who is clearly in need of her home is disgusting.

Throughout this thread blue_money shines out as someone who puts the needs of her family above her own personal needs. What she needs on this thread is support and advice to help her in her struggle, not people saying there may be others in greater need. If she lost the chance of a suitable home just because she didn't make her claim it could easily go to someone who knows how to play the system rather than someone in greater need.

I say again this thread is for supporting blue_monkey.

Silvercar and blue monkey,
I never said do not fight if you go back to what I said this afternoon I said fight but do not lower yourself to moaning and nagging, I said be polite and respectful.You can still do that and fight, you do not want to give them anything to not like you for.
Silvercar would you like to point out where exactly I said it was ok for the council to lie?And as for the thread being for support, did I not try to point blue monkey in the direction of the specialist AS services (was going to ask my friend if she could help in any way)wont bother now.
The first post by blue monkey and the title is one asking for HELP, you might not always like what is said but I am what I am.I am not touchy feely I am practical and what good would anyone be to blue monkey if we avoided saying things which are objective.
The council seem to have lied but you say they abdicated responsibility for housing blue monkey, it does not appear that way from what blue monkey says they may not be housing her immediatly but they will in some shape or form.And I never said blue monkey should not make her claim, nowhere did I say that.Too many people are telling lies (council) why are you joining them.
And I say again I did not say dont fight, but fight within the system you have (whether that is right or wrong).
And please dont remind me that the council officials are paid for with our taxes I pay them too.
I was being realistic, there may be others, I said BM would not know of their circumstances.The council official said she would get the house first if one came up, but didnt they lie before, why does BM trust them on that count.

BM I gave you support and advice it may not be what you want to hear but its honest.If you only wish to accept touchy, feely, false hope please say so and because its your thread and I have the greatest respect for what you are going through and will leave the thread.
If you want an honest, unbiased, critical opinion then I am here 100% behind you.There will be no hard feelings, im pretty thick skinned. Shal x

blue_monkey_2

Hi Ss, I just this minute thought I had not emailed you and then I saw your post. I have been frantically listing everything that does not move this weekend to get it onto eBay. Just to give you an idea... my son was 4 in February and I have been listing his old clothes. Ages 0-3 months upwards, LOL. I used to say 'there is always next week and it seems that I have run out of time. So much stuff to do and no time to do it.

I have put his buggy on there as well, still not sure if I have done the right thing as I have a smaller one coming that I bought on eBay (ironically I started chatting to the lady and she had posted about her own housing situation on MSE and I recognised her!!) anyway, my house has never looked so 'decluttered' where everything has been boxed and in the garage, we just focused on getting as much done as possible so apologies for that. My friends came around today and said 'the room looks bigger, what have you done' and I said 'tidied up' :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Did you see the message about CAMHS. Another fight, but the doctor was not impressed so he is doing that for me this week, he is lovely and as 3 docs have said he needs to be seen I wonder when they will actually see him.

Thank you SC, you all know that your support and advice is very much appreciated and keeps me going having somewhere to write it down and ask if I have done it right, but if I do not agree with it then I will say as to why and my reasons behind it.

blue_monkey_2

Hi Shal,

No, I have said before I'll take all advice but if I did not agree then I would say why and I think we all misread what you was trying to say. I have been nice, I have not moaned or been disrespectful but it really does not get you anywhere - let's be honest, I have been and look where I am now. I've nothing to lose by fighting it, we are going to the hostel and they have to put us in the hostel so I might as well ask the question as to why they have lied and try and get an answer.

No, I agree with you I absolutely do not trust the council but this is why I will let the MP deal with it and get the answers - it was not an offhand comment, it was in a letter that the Chief Housing Officer sent to him telling him al the stuff about us. Why did she lie? Why not just tell him that we would go to temporary accomodation when xx time was up. She didn't though, and this is the point and I want to know why. It was clearly to make themselves look like they had been doing something when they had not.

Of course, the other thing is that if they felt that this is what they needed him to hear then why did they not do it. I wonder if they expected him to pat me on the head and send me away but he didn't, he said, I want to be kept updated. And so I did. And now it has come to this.

As I said, they have lied but I want to know why they have lied so let them squirm out of it to his face and not mine!!

Please do post your comments, I am happy for all comments but I'll give a response where it is due. I also read that you was telling me not to fight and not to shout about it but to be polite and calm through it all. I am being, but whether the MP is though we will find out on Thursday

silvercar

I reckon the lies are because no-one at the council wants to be seen to be responsible for you moving to the hostel.

SingleSue

BM, yeah I did see your post regarding therapy for your son and it rang a familiar bell with me (once more). Middle son was originally thought to be ADHD and we did get help in the way of parenting classes at the local child mental health service (different to the hospital run CAMHS), where they decided that it was all being made up because I was way too cheerful to have the sort of child I was describing! One very strong complaint later and they rescinded their report. I only went back to them when his school had got to desperation stakes and said something had to be done but I refused to answer their questions in the appointments (so I couldn't be accused of making it up) and instead referred them to his school, his special needs playgroup, the local mencap group he went to on a Saturday for any reports on his behaviour. In this roundabout way, we finally got a diagnosis of Aspergers and they finally put me onto a wonderful course "Understanding Autism and your child" which explained the reasons for behaviours and how to deal with them. It was wonderful to finally receive the correct support after 4 years of promises.

Youngest son did however go the CAMHS route via the local hospital after a physcologist picked up that he was not age appropriate at one of my other sons appointments, he reported to our specialist (who youngest was seeing for bowel, food intolerances, communication disorder etc) what he suspected and the referral was made but we had absolutely no joy there...they said he was copying his brother (who had completely opposite behaviours). The specialist then insisted on saying he had an autistic like disorder but without the formal diagnosis we couldn't access the specialised language therapies for an autistic child and the local speech therapy service couldn't meet his needs either (he was non verbal at the time) . So I started doing my own research on the web, found some pointers on American websites about therapies and introduced it myself.

He finally got formally diagnosed nearly 4 years after it was picked up by which time I had done all his therapies from encouraging eye contact to getting him to verbalise his wants and needs. It was only at age 8 that he started receiving help via an outreach service of the local specialist autism school, even spending some time there.

I am afraid that it is the start of many battles for you (one our main moans among the local mums of autistic kids here), just when you think things are sorted, something else comes up.......my word am I dreading September when middle son goes to high school and then next September when youngest goes too!

vivatifosi

Hi BM,

Just a thought...

As you have the MP on side can you ask him if he has someone he knows who can come with you to the council and help out with some appointments and stuff and act as your advocate?

Also have you got copies of all letters together in one place relating to Ryan, your situation etc? Have you got letters from everyone on your side? If not, please get them. I'd like to get all that together in one of those plastic folders from Staples and hand it all over as "supporting evidence" to the council with a copy to your MP and local counsellor. You can then send it to them recorded delivery and wait for them to act on it. Then if they try to lie their way out of overwhelming evidence you can take them to the Local Government Ombudsman for misconduct.

mumoftwins

BM,

Have you also contacted your local councillor? If not, then please do as I contacted mine and he was absolutely excellent in putting my case forward to the council, he visited me at home 3 or 4 times, and even came to the appeal and gave evidence on my behalf!

Gina_of_course!

In the spirit of moneysaving.... if you have to deliver anything to the housing department or any council offices....and if you are local to the office/s (weighing up petrol cost as well if you aren' t ) I would always opt for hand delivering to the main desk and requesting a receipt for the letter... as recorded delivery of £4.25 each time can work out costly. and thats without any extra cost for the weight of the letter..