Paint advice needed

HugoandHudsonsmum

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

Yes to only mist coating the bare bits.

Your photo shows a rusting plasterers bead on the corner. You need to investigate why it’s rusting before you do anything with it as that area shouldn’t be damp.

Can I use the same paint as the walls but in white for the ceiling or should I use paint specific to the ceilings I saw crown do one.

stuart45

HugoandHudsonsmum said:

stuart45 said:

It's most likely to be as I thought. Condensation gathering more at the top of the tiles. I'd cut through the bead at the top of tiles and higher up where the bead isn't rusted. Knock it out and any defective plaster. You sometimes find that moisture has got behind the tiles as well.

That sounds like a big job knocking it out could I just clean the rust off and patch it up somehow till I get a new kitchen as I'll be getting a new kitchen in a few years when I've saved enough. 

It's not a really big job. You just cut through the bead with a hacksaw in 2 places, then knock it out. 
However, if you can get most of the rust off it might last a few years. 

Albermarle

HugoandHudsonsmum said:

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

Yes to only mist coating the bare bits.

Your photo shows a rusting plasterers bead on the corner. You need to investigate why it’s rusting before you do anything with it as that area shouldn’t be damp.

Can I use the same paint as the walls but in white for the ceiling or should I use paint specific to the ceilings I saw crown do one.

Normally you can just use the same paint, especially as the one you will be using is a matt paint.

bjorn_toby_wilde

HugoandHudsonsmum said:

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

Yes to only mist coating the bare bits.

Your photo shows a rusting plasterers bead on the corner. You need to investigate why it’s rusting before you do anything with it as that area shouldn’t be damp.

Can I use the same paint as the walls but in white for the ceiling or should I use paint specific to the ceilings I saw crown do one.

It’s down to personal preference really.

For ceilings go for a matt paint. You won’t go wrong with Crown Vinyl Matt if you’re heading for Crown anyway and it’s not expensive. A specialist ceiling paint will tend to be flatter (low sheen) as this hides imperfections better and it doesn’t need to be as hard wearing as the wall paints.

The hard wearing matts like Dulux Diamond tend to have a very slight sheen to them. I don’t know why but it must be something in the formulation.

This is a good site for recommendations.

https://www.thedecoratorsforum.com/best-white-emulsion-paint/

Albermarle

I am not 100% certain but I think there solid walls I know there very very old. 

Cavity walls started to be common in the UK in the 1930's.
For sure a Victorian or Edwardian property ( so pre WW1) will have solid walls.

The easiest way to tell ( I think) is to look outside at the brick pattern

Solid walls typically have an “English bond” or “Flemish bond” pattern, with some bricks laid lengthwise and others laid crosswise. Cavity walls usually have a “stretcher bond” pattern, where all bricks are laid lengthwise.
If you google it you will see picture examples.

Solid walls are structurally fine, but not as good as retaining heat as cavity walls, although it depends to some extent if there is any insulation in the cavity.

 

stuart45

It depends on which part of the country you live in. In Hampshire by the coast cavity walls were being built in the 1860's. The 1930's was the time that most of the country had switched to cavity walls.
The bond isn't 100% accurate, as some solid walls are built in Stretcher bond, and some cavity walls are built in Mock Flemish bond with snapped headers.

HugoandHudsonsmum

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

HugoandHudsonsmum said:

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

Yes to only mist coating the bare bits.

Your photo shows a rusting plasterers bead on the corner. You need to investigate why it’s rusting before you do anything with it as that area shouldn’t be damp.

Can I use the same paint as the walls but in white for the ceiling or should I use paint specific to the ceilings I saw crown do one.

It’s down to personal preference really.

For ceilings go for a matt paint. You won’t go wrong with Crown Vinyl Matt if you’re heading for Crown anyway and it’s not expensive. A specialist ceiling paint will tend to be flatter (low sheen) as this hides imperfections better and it doesn’t need to be as hard wearing as the wall paints.

The hard wearing matts like Dulux Diamond tend to have a very slight sheen to them. I don’t know why but it must be something in the formulation.

This is a good site for recommendations.

Can I also use the crown trade vinyl Matt as the mist coat can I think that with water to make the mist coat? 

HugoandHudsonsmum

stuart45 said:

HugoandHudsonsmum said:

stuart45 said:

It's most likely to be as I thought. Condensation gathering more at the top of the tiles. I'd cut through the bead at the top of tiles and higher up where the bead isn't rusted. Knock it out and any defective plaster. You sometimes find that moisture has got behind the tiles as well.

That sounds like a big job knocking it out could I just clean the rust off and patch it up somehow till I get a new kitchen as I'll be getting a new kitchen in a few years when I've saved enough. 

It's not a really big job. You just cut through the bead with a hacksaw in 2 places, then knock it out. 
However, if you can get most of the rust off it might last a few years. 

Thank you yes  I will have enough saved for a new kitchen in around 2-3yrs time so I'd rather just patch up for now and then let a plasterer do it for me as knowing me I'll do more damage. Do I just get the rust off and then use filler to fill the gap and the paint over ?

bjorn_toby_wilde

HugoandHudsonsmum said:

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

HugoandHudsonsmum said:

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

Yes to only mist coating the bare bits.

Your photo shows a rusting plasterers bead on the corner. You need to investigate why it’s rusting before you do anything with it as that area shouldn’t be damp.

Can I use the same paint as the walls but in white for the ceiling or should I use paint specific to the ceilings I saw crown do one.

It’s down to personal preference really.

For ceilings go for a matt paint. You won’t go wrong with Crown Vinyl Matt if you’re heading for Crown anyway and it’s not expensive. A specialist ceiling paint will tend to be flatter (low sheen) as this hides imperfections better and it doesn’t need to be as hard wearing as the wall paints.

The hard wearing matts like Dulux Diamond tend to have a very slight sheen to them. I don’t know why but it must be something in the formulation.

This is a good site for recommendations.

Can I also use the crown trade vinyl Matt as the mist coat can I think that with water to make the mist coat? 

Yes, that’s fine.

HugoandHudsonsmum

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Hi , I've painted the living room and I'm doing the hallway tomorrow and I've just seen these on one of the walls on a corner do I just use the toupret filler over this and then sand it down and mist coat it before painting? It's at the bottom of the wall in the hallway near the stairs