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  • Anyway on the painting do I scrap off the peeling pain just in the area it peeling or do I just take it off the whole wall? 

    The issue is that if you just scrape of the peeling paint, when you paint the wall, you will be able to see the line at the boundary of the scraped section and the original paint. So it depends on its location ( is it in a prominent visible location, or not) and how good/perfect  a job you want to do. At least you should sand down the edges of the original paint, and do a couple of extra coats over it and it will be less obvious.
    Also do I need specific paint for the wood doors or can I use the paint I'm putting on the walls? 
    You should use gloss, if you want a glossy finish, or satinwood for a less glossy finish. Do not use the emulsion paint you get for the walls.

    The decision here is whether to use oil/solvent based or water based.
    The former takes a lot longer to dry and smells more. It will fade quicker ( white goes yellow) but be more resistant to chipping.
    If the doors have not been painted for many years they are probably the traditional oil based type and an oil based paint may go on better than a water based one, as there is some incompatibility between the two.
     



    I'm going to sand down the area too I just meant do I scrap the whole wall or just the area that is peeling and then sand it down ect. 

    Also could I use an undercoat paint instead of watering down to do the mist coat? 

    Do I use emulsion paint on the radiators or do they need a specific paint? 


  • Emmia
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    Emmia said:
    Thanks all , I've got a good idea now of what to do , the mold issue is due to poor ventilation and high moisture levels throughout the house @Emmia and I'm getting a dehumidifier to help until I sort the ventilation out as I'm allergic to mold so need it gone. I read you can get whole house dehumidifiers but not sure how they remove moisture from every room never had one before do you move it every few hours to each room or if it's in the hallway it can remove moisture for the whole house. 

    Anyway on the painting do I scrap off the peeling pain just in the area it peeling or do I just take it off the whole wall? 

    I'm going to do a mist coat once I've prepped the walls and the do two coats to start after the mist coat. 


    I'd personally be looking at things like effective kitchen and bathroom fans with humidistats to reduce the humidity /moisture levels (circa £100 each - you're on a budget but these will make a big difference.

    Have you checked for things like blocked gutters etc.

    I could just get the fans for the worst affected rooms because not every room has mold issues badly. The kitchen and dinning room is the worst followed by the hallway so maybe I start by getting 3 and then when funds allow buy more. 
    Normally you'd install extractor fans with humidistats in the kitchen and bathrooms (not usually in dining rooms or halls) as these are the rooms where moisture is created through cooking and showering/bathing - there may be some there already which you could upgrade? I'd also get a good dehumidifier which you can move around to start dealing with the moisture levels.
  • Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Thanks all , I've got a good idea now of what to do , the mold issue is due to poor ventilation and high moisture levels throughout the house @Emmia and I'm getting a dehumidifier to help until I sort the ventilation out as I'm allergic to mold so need it gone. I read you can get whole house dehumidifiers but not sure how they remove moisture from every room never had one before do you move it every few hours to each room or if it's in the hallway it can remove moisture for the whole house. 

    Anyway on the painting do I scrap off the peeling pain just in the area it peeling or do I just take it off the whole wall? 

    I'm going to do a mist coat once I've prepped the walls and the do two coats to start after the mist coat. 


    I'd personally be looking at things like effective kitchen and bathroom fans with humidistats to reduce the humidity /moisture levels (circa £100 each - you're on a budget but these will make a big difference.

    Have you checked for things like blocked gutters etc.

    I could just get the fans for the worst affected rooms because not every room has mold issues badly. The kitchen and dinning room is the worst followed by the hallway so maybe I start by getting 3 and then when funds allow buy more. 
    Normally you'd install extractor fans with humidistats in the kitchen and bathrooms (not usually in dining rooms or halls) as these are the rooms where moisture is created through cooking and showering/bathing - there may be some there already which you could upgrade? I'd also get a good dehumidifier which you can move around to start dealing with the moisture levels.


    Didn't realise they were extractor fans until after I made my post and couldn't find how to edit. 

    So I'll need a dehumidifier really for the whole house and extractor fans for the kitchen as the bathroom isn't too bad there's only bits in there mostly around the window where there's condensation on the windows. 

    I'm looking at the meacodry  dehumidifier arete one 20l one should be enough for a 3 bed house. Should keep it centrally like in the hallway and if I leave all my internal doors open it hopefully will pull moisture from other rooms or should I move it around to different rooms every few hours?
  • stuart45
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    I'm going to sand down the area too I just meant do I scrap the whole wall or just the area that is peeling and then sand it down ect. 

    Also could I use an undercoat paint instead of watering down to do the mist coat? 

    Do I use emulsion paint on the radiators or do they need a specific paint? 


    It really depends on the amount of time you want to spend on the prep, condition of the walls and how good you want the finish. 
    If most of the walls are OK, you can also use a filler to level out the patches. One like Knauf fill and finish is really easy to use and sand down. 
    Stripping all the old emulsion off is obviously a lot more work. 
    You can paint the rads with emulsion, but radiator paint lasts longer. 

  • Emmia
    Emmia Posts: 7,104 Forumite
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    Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Thanks all , I've got a good idea now of what to do , the mold issue is due to poor ventilation and high moisture levels throughout the house @Emmia and I'm getting a dehumidifier to help until I sort the ventilation out as I'm allergic to mold so need it gone. I read you can get whole house dehumidifiers but not sure how they remove moisture from every room never had one before do you move it every few hours to each room or if it's in the hallway it can remove moisture for the whole house. 

    Anyway on the painting do I scrap off the peeling pain just in the area it peeling or do I just take it off the whole wall? 

    I'm going to do a mist coat once I've prepped the walls and the do two coats to start after the mist coat. 


    I'd personally be looking at things like effective kitchen and bathroom fans with humidistats to reduce the humidity /moisture levels (circa £100 each - you're on a budget but these will make a big difference.

    Have you checked for things like blocked gutters etc.

    I could just get the fans for the worst affected rooms because not every room has mold issues badly. The kitchen and dinning room is the worst followed by the hallway so maybe I start by getting 3 and then when funds allow buy more. 
    Normally you'd install extractor fans with humidistats in the kitchen and bathrooms (not usually in dining rooms or halls) as these are the rooms where moisture is created through cooking and showering/bathing - there may be some there already which you could upgrade? I'd also get a good dehumidifier which you can move around to start dealing with the moisture levels.


    Didn't realise they were extractor fans until after I made my post and couldn't find how to edit. 

    So I'll need a dehumidifier really for the whole house and extractor fans for the kitchen as the bathroom isn't too bad there's only bits in there mostly around the window where there's condensation on the windows. 

    I'm looking at the meacodry  dehumidifier arete one 20l one should be enough for a 3 bed house. Should keep it centrally like in the hallway and if I leave all my internal doors open it hopefully will pull moisture from other rooms or should I move it around to different rooms every few hours?
    If you buy humidistat fans they'll run all the time when the humidity is over a certain level. When we got ours humidity was around 80% in a 2 bed flat... We installed them and within a couple of days the humidity had dropped to 60%  and now a few years later generally hovers around 45% - 50%. 

    We have a Meaco dehumidifier as well but that only really gets run if we're drying washing indoors - the fans do the majority of the extraction.
  • Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Thanks all , I've got a good idea now of what to do , the mold issue is due to poor ventilation and high moisture levels throughout the house @Emmia and I'm getting a dehumidifier to help until I sort the ventilation out as I'm allergic to mold so need it gone. I read you can get whole house dehumidifiers but not sure how they remove moisture from every room never had one before do you move it every few hours to each room or if it's in the hallway it can remove moisture for the whole house. 

    Anyway on the painting do I scrap off the peeling pain just in the area it peeling or do I just take it off the whole wall? 

    I'm going to do a mist coat once I've prepped the walls and the do two coats to start after the mist coat. 


    I'd personally be looking at things like effective kitchen and bathroom fans with humidistats to reduce the humidity /moisture levels (circa £100 each - you're on a budget but these will make a big difference.

    Have you checked for things like blocked gutters etc.

    I could just get the fans for the worst affected rooms because not every room has mold issues badly. The kitchen and dinning room is the worst followed by the hallway so maybe I start by getting 3 and then when funds allow buy more. 
    Normally you'd install extractor fans with humidistats in the kitchen and bathrooms (not usually in dining rooms or halls) as these are the rooms where moisture is created through cooking and showering/bathing - there may be some there already which you could upgrade? I'd also get a good dehumidifier which you can move around to start dealing with the moisture levels.


    Didn't realise they were extractor fans until after I made my post and couldn't find how to edit. 

    So I'll need a dehumidifier really for the whole house and extractor fans for the kitchen as the bathroom isn't too bad there's only bits in there mostly around the window where there's condensation on the windows. 

    I'm looking at the meacodry  dehumidifier arete one 20l one should be enough for a 3 bed house. Should keep it centrally like in the hallway and if I leave all my internal doors open it hopefully will pull moisture from other rooms or should I move it around to different rooms every few hours?
    If you buy humidistat fans they'll run all the time when the humidity is over a certain level. When we got ours humidity was around 80% in a 2 bed flat... We installed them and within a couple of days the humidity had dropped to 60%  and now a few years later generally hovers around 45% - 50%. 

    We have a Meaco dehumidifier as well but that only really gets run if we're drying washing indoors - the fans do the majority of the extraction.
      

    Would you say the meacodry dehumidifier is good at reducing the humidity in a house though? 
  • Emmia
    Emmia Posts: 7,104 Forumite
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    edited 7 January at 3:35PM
    Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Thanks all , I've got a good idea now of what to do , the mold issue is due to poor ventilation and high moisture levels throughout the house @Emmia and I'm getting a dehumidifier to help until I sort the ventilation out as I'm allergic to mold so need it gone. I read you can get whole house dehumidifiers but not sure how they remove moisture from every room never had one before do you move it every few hours to each room or if it's in the hallway it can remove moisture for the whole house. 

    Anyway on the painting do I scrap off the peeling pain just in the area it peeling or do I just take it off the whole wall? 

    I'm going to do a mist coat once I've prepped the walls and the do two coats to start after the mist coat. 


    I'd personally be looking at things like effective kitchen and bathroom fans with humidistats to reduce the humidity /moisture levels (circa £100 each - you're on a budget but these will make a big difference.

    Have you checked for things like blocked gutters etc.

    I could just get the fans for the worst affected rooms because not every room has mold issues badly. The kitchen and dinning room is the worst followed by the hallway so maybe I start by getting 3 and then when funds allow buy more. 
    Normally you'd install extractor fans with humidistats in the kitchen and bathrooms (not usually in dining rooms or halls) as these are the rooms where moisture is created through cooking and showering/bathing - there may be some there already which you could upgrade? I'd also get a good dehumidifier which you can move around to start dealing with the moisture levels.


    Didn't realise they were extractor fans until after I made my post and couldn't find how to edit. 

    So I'll need a dehumidifier really for the whole house and extractor fans for the kitchen as the bathroom isn't too bad there's only bits in there mostly around the window where there's condensation on the windows. 

    I'm looking at the meacodry  dehumidifier arete one 20l one should be enough for a 3 bed house. Should keep it centrally like in the hallway and if I leave all my internal doors open it hopefully will pull moisture from other rooms or should I move it around to different rooms every few hours?
    If you buy humidistat fans they'll run all the time when the humidity is over a certain level. When we got ours humidity was around 80% in a 2 bed flat... We installed them and within a couple of days the humidity had dropped to 60%  and now a few years later generally hovers around 45% - 50%. 

    We have a Meaco dehumidifier as well but that only really gets run if we're drying washing indoors - the fans do the majority of the extraction.
      

    Would you say the meacodry dehumidifier is good at reducing the humidity in a house though? 
    Are you going to run it 24/7? Are you ok to empty the tank regularly? 

    I can't comment on that model of Meaco dehumidifier, but our 20L Meaco is very effective when it's running - but it can be in the way, which is why more powerful extraction fans with humidistats work better for us (and why I'd get those over having a standalone dehumidifier).
  • Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Thanks all , I've got a good idea now of what to do , the mold issue is due to poor ventilation and high moisture levels throughout the house @Emmia and I'm getting a dehumidifier to help until I sort the ventilation out as I'm allergic to mold so need it gone. I read you can get whole house dehumidifiers but not sure how they remove moisture from every room never had one before do you move it every few hours to each room or if it's in the hallway it can remove moisture for the whole house. 

    Anyway on the painting do I scrap off the peeling pain just in the area it peeling or do I just take it off the whole wall? 

    I'm going to do a mist coat once I've prepped the walls and the do two coats to start after the mist coat. 


    I'd personally be looking at things like effective kitchen and bathroom fans with humidistats to reduce the humidity /moisture levels (circa £100 each - you're on a budget but these will make a big difference.

    Have you checked for things like blocked gutters etc.

    I could just get the fans for the worst affected rooms because not every room has mold issues badly. The kitchen and dinning room is the worst followed by the hallway so maybe I start by getting 3 and then when funds allow buy more. 
    Normally you'd install extractor fans with humidistats in the kitchen and bathrooms (not usually in dining rooms or halls) as these are the rooms where moisture is created through cooking and showering/bathing - there may be some there already which you could upgrade? I'd also get a good dehumidifier which you can move around to start dealing with the moisture levels.


    Didn't realise they were extractor fans until after I made my post and couldn't find how to edit. 

    So I'll need a dehumidifier really for the whole house and extractor fans for the kitchen as the bathroom isn't too bad there's only bits in there mostly around the window where there's condensation on the windows. 

    I'm looking at the meacodry  dehumidifier arete one 20l one should be enough for a 3 bed house. Should keep it centrally like in the hallway and if I leave all my internal doors open it hopefully will pull moisture from other rooms or should I move it around to different rooms every few hours?
    If you buy humidistat fans they'll run all the time when the humidity is over a certain level. When we got ours humidity was around 80% in a 2 bed flat... We installed them and within a couple of days the humidity had dropped to 60%  and now a few years later generally hovers around 45% - 50%. 

    We have a Meaco dehumidifier as well but that only really gets run if we're drying washing indoors - the fans do the majority of the extraction.
      

    Would you say the meacodry dehumidifier is good at reducing the humidity in a house though? 
    Are you going to run it 24/7? Are you ok to empty the tank regularly? 

    I can't comment on that model of Meaco dehumidifier, but our 20L Meaco is very effective when it's running - but it can be in the way, which is why more powerful extraction fans with humidistats work better for us (and why I'd get those over having a standalone dehumidifier).
     

    I'll put them in when I can put I obv6cant do it myself and I'm assuming you'll need to.make a hole in the wall so the moisture has somewhere to go and I'm not good at drilling stuff to walls so I'll need to get someone in to do and it looks like it's a few hundred just to have it installed so I can't afford that yet but the dehumidifier could help until I can get install them
  • Emmia
    Emmia Posts: 7,104 Forumite
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    Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Thanks all , I've got a good idea now of what to do , the mold issue is due to poor ventilation and high moisture levels throughout the house @Emmia and I'm getting a dehumidifier to help until I sort the ventilation out as I'm allergic to mold so need it gone. I read you can get whole house dehumidifiers but not sure how they remove moisture from every room never had one before do you move it every few hours to each room or if it's in the hallway it can remove moisture for the whole house. 

    Anyway on the painting do I scrap off the peeling pain just in the area it peeling or do I just take it off the whole wall? 

    I'm going to do a mist coat once I've prepped the walls and the do two coats to start after the mist coat. 


    I'd personally be looking at things like effective kitchen and bathroom fans with humidistats to reduce the humidity /moisture levels (circa £100 each - you're on a budget but these will make a big difference.

    Have you checked for things like blocked gutters etc.

    I could just get the fans for the worst affected rooms because not every room has mold issues badly. The kitchen and dinning room is the worst followed by the hallway so maybe I start by getting 3 and then when funds allow buy more. 
    Normally you'd install extractor fans with humidistats in the kitchen and bathrooms (not usually in dining rooms or halls) as these are the rooms where moisture is created through cooking and showering/bathing - there may be some there already which you could upgrade? I'd also get a good dehumidifier which you can move around to start dealing with the moisture levels.


    Didn't realise they were extractor fans until after I made my post and couldn't find how to edit. 

    So I'll need a dehumidifier really for the whole house and extractor fans for the kitchen as the bathroom isn't too bad there's only bits in there mostly around the window where there's condensation on the windows. 

    I'm looking at the meacodry  dehumidifier arete one 20l one should be enough for a 3 bed house. Should keep it centrally like in the hallway and if I leave all my internal doors open it hopefully will pull moisture from other rooms or should I move it around to different rooms every few hours?
    If you buy humidistat fans they'll run all the time when the humidity is over a certain level. When we got ours humidity was around 80% in a 2 bed flat... We installed them and within a couple of days the humidity had dropped to 60%  and now a few years later generally hovers around 45% - 50%. 

    We have a Meaco dehumidifier as well but that only really gets run if we're drying washing indoors - the fans do the majority of the extraction.
      

    Would you say the meacodry dehumidifier is good at reducing the humidity in a house though? 
    Are you going to run it 24/7? Are you ok to empty the tank regularly? 

    I can't comment on that model of Meaco dehumidifier, but our 20L Meaco is very effective when it's running - but it can be in the way, which is why more powerful extraction fans with humidistats work better for us (and why I'd get those over having a standalone dehumidifier).
     

    I'll put them in when I can put I obv6cant do it myself and I'm assuming you'll need to.make a hole in the wall so the moisture has somewhere to go and I'm not good at drilling stuff to walls so I'll need to get someone in to do and it looks like it's a few hundred just to have it installed so I can't afford that yet but the dehumidifier could help until I can get install them
    A decent dehumidifier will cost you a few hundred... 
    Are you doing obvious (free) things like having the windows open whenever possible, or opening any vents etc. do you know the cause of the moisture/damp problem? Is it social (caused by bathing, cooking, clothes drying) or something else?

  • Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Thanks all , I've got a good idea now of what to do , the mold issue is due to poor ventilation and high moisture levels throughout the house @Emmia and I'm getting a dehumidifier to help until I sort the ventilation out as I'm allergic to mold so need it gone. I read you can get whole house dehumidifiers but not sure how they remove moisture from every room never had one before do you move it every few hours to each room or if it's in the hallway it can remove moisture for the whole house. 

    Anyway on the painting do I scrap off the peeling pain just in the area it peeling or do I just take it off the whole wall? 

    I'm going to do a mist coat once I've prepped the walls and the do two coats to start after the mist coat. 


    I'd personally be looking at things like effective kitchen and bathroom fans with humidistats to reduce the humidity /moisture levels (circa £100 each - you're on a budget but these will make a big difference.

    Have you checked for things like blocked gutters etc.

    I could just get the fans for the worst affected rooms because not every room has mold issues badly. The kitchen and dinning room is the worst followed by the hallway so maybe I start by getting 3 and then when funds allow buy more. 
    Normally you'd install extractor fans with humidistats in the kitchen and bathrooms (not usually in dining rooms or halls) as these are the rooms where moisture is created through cooking and showering/bathing - there may be some there already which you could upgrade? I'd also get a good dehumidifier which you can move around to start dealing with the moisture levels.


    Didn't realise they were extractor fans until after I made my post and couldn't find how to edit. 

    So I'll need a dehumidifier really for the whole house and extractor fans for the kitchen as the bathroom isn't too bad there's only bits in there mostly around the window where there's condensation on the windows. 

    I'm looking at the meacodry  dehumidifier arete one 20l one should be enough for a 3 bed house. Should keep it centrally like in the hallway and if I leave all my internal doors open it hopefully will pull moisture from other rooms or should I move it around to different rooms every few hours?
    If you buy humidistat fans they'll run all the time when the humidity is over a certain level. When we got ours humidity was around 80% in a 2 bed flat... We installed them and within a couple of days the humidity had dropped to 60%  and now a few years later generally hovers around 45% - 50%. 

    We have a Meaco dehumidifier as well but that only really gets run if we're drying washing indoors - the fans do the majority of the extraction.
      

    Would you say the meacodry dehumidifier is good at reducing the humidity in a house though? 
    Are you going to run it 24/7? Are you ok to empty the tank regularly? 

    I can't comment on that model of Meaco dehumidifier, but our 20L Meaco is very effective when it's running - but it can be in the way, which is why more powerful extraction fans with humidistats work better for us (and why I'd get those over having a standalone dehumidifier).
     

    I'll put them in when I can put I obv6cant do it myself and I'm assuming you'll need to.make a hole in the wall so the moisture has somewhere to go and I'm not good at drilling stuff to walls so I'll need to get someone in to do and it looks like it's a few hundred just to have it installed so I can't afford that yet but the dehumidifier could help until I can get install them
    A decent dehumidifier will cost you a few hundred... 
    Are you doing obvious (free) things like having the windows open whenever possible, or opening any vents etc. do you know the cause of the moisture/damp problem? Is it social (caused by bathing, cooking, clothes drying) or something else?



    I know in the kitchen it's definitely humidity and my nan always had windows open but there was always too much steam in the kitchen because it's so small too. Bedrooms again had the windows open but maybe not for long enough. The hallway is the real mystery because there's no windows in there at all and no leaks ect so I'm not sure why the hallway kept getting mold for. The humidifier I'm thinking of getting is only £209 and it can do the whole house apparently 
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