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  • _Dolly_Rocker_
    _Dolly_Rocker_ Posts: 1,061 Forumite
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    Sending you lots of love.

    Debt Free - 4th June 2025
  • Highlanddream
    Highlanddream Posts: 364 Forumite
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    Thank you all, it really means a lot. This is the only place I feel it is ok to say about it all. I am lucky to have an amazing partner to support but he is as devastated as me.

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  • Highlanddream
    Highlanddream Posts: 364 Forumite
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    edited 3 April at 2:08PM

    Hi everybody….

    This is going to sound awful but I need some advice.

    My brother passing away has left my sister -in-law in a pickle, a mortgage she can't afford etc, my brother had a good job - over 100k salary but no life insurance and very good at spending, lots of HP etc. She is suggesting that she won't have any money to pay her bills, he would have a really good pension and I suspect she will get a substantial amount of money from this. I don't earn enough to 'lose' money like that. She currently works part time. Am I being the most awful person if I don't give her cash? She will have to sell their house whether I give her cash or not. I only have a small emergency fund.

    I am driving up soon and the journey will take over 6 hrs and that will cost a fair bit in fuel.

    Just need people with clear heads to tell whether I am being the most awful person for not giving her some money?

    I believe the government will give her some sort of payment as well. There maybe cash after some of the debts are settled on vehicles etc?

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  • in_need_of_direction
    in_need_of_direction Posts: 8,201 Forumite
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    if you have a significant amount going spare, you’d be a horrible person to refuse. The reality is that you don’t. You already have significant outgoings and based on worldwide events, these are increasing day by day. The end result would be unchanged even if you handed over what cash you have. In addition to the pension pot, there could be a death in service pot plus a government allowance. IMO, the best long term support you can provide is helping to determine outgoings and helping to plan how these could be addressed.

    Take care

    Mortgage at 01.01.14 £119,481.83:eek: today £0 Emergency fund £5.5/5.5k & £200/200 cash.:jWeight 24/02/19 14st 7lb now 12st 1lb determined to stop defining myself by my mistakes. Progress not perfection.:T100%through my 1% mortgage challenge. 100% through my pb challenge. I’m not perfect but I’m good enough.
  • joedenise
    joedenise Posts: 18,512 Forumite
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    I agree with @in_need_of_direction that the best long term support is to help determine outgoings and planning how they can be addressed.

    She is not going to be penniless! She will have the government payments - I think there's a one off payment followed by monthly payments - the amount will probably depend on her DH's NI record. Most companies have a Death in Service payment so she should get that too.

    You are definitely not a horrible person for not giving her any cash.

  • Highlanddream
    Highlanddream Posts: 364 Forumite
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    edited 3 April at 3:39PM

    Thank you for replying, it's an awful situation. She hasn't asked outright but the implication is there if you get what I mean.

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    June 25 : £13000                   Nov 25 - £9275                                  
    July 25 :  £12000                   Dec 25 - £8975
    Aug 25 :  £11436                   Jan 26 -  £8065
  • Sarahwithlove
    Sarahwithlove Posts: 3,478 Forumite
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    do you know if she has tried contacting her mortgage company to ask for a break? not ideal but could she get a credit card? there are options available to her other than borrowing money from you when you cant afford it.

    *Dad loan - £5300 - £7000
    *Virgin Credit Card - £3552.50 - £0
    *Natwest - £1828.35 -£0.00
    Barclaycard - £2315.25 - £0.00
    Creation Finance - £960.32 £0
    Tesco Credit Card - £3652.32 £3270.54

    *Total Debt - £10370.54/£15293.48*


    Savings
    *Sinking Fund - £2064.85/£3000
    *Emergency Fund - £2500/£2500


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  • Highlanddream
    Highlanddream Posts: 364 Forumite
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    The mortgage company have offered her 6 months interest only then it would revert to variable and she doesn't earn enough to keep it going.

    My thoughts were maybe she could increase her hours but she is saying she needs to sort the house for selling. She must be absolutely devastated and not in a good headspace to work more.

    I don't think it would be borrowing from me somehow, I doubt I would get it returned.

    It is making me feel that it is my responsibility as he's my brother but equally so I feel it was their life choices to be up to the eye balls in debt.

    It has made me more determined to be totally debt free ( was due to be September )

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    May 25 :  £14000                  Oct 25 -  £9569          Mar 26 - £5998         
    June 25 : £13000                   Nov 25 - £9275                                  
    July 25 :  £12000                   Dec 25 - £8975
    Aug 25 :  £11436                   Jan 26 -  £8065
  • vampirotoothus
    vampirotoothus Posts: 422 Forumite
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    Hi, if he was employed, with a salary of that size I would think that the company probably have death in service benefit in place, so it worth asking her to check that out.
    Also I would think that any pension will pay out quite quickly on receipt of the death certificate.
    Historically credit deals have cancelled with the death of the borrower (you may want to check if that is still the case) so if he has any outstanding credit solely in his name it may be worth cancelling any direct debits. V x

  • Highlanddream
    Highlanddream Posts: 364 Forumite
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    Unfortunately they didn't have joint bank accounts and she doesn't have any access details. It is all a mess.

    That's good news about the pension. I hope that will take the pressure off her.

    I am already struggling with the fact she wants to sell family history items that my brother inherited. I am wondering whether I could pay her for some of them. I realise that is my problem for being sentimental about 'stuff'

    Sept 24 : £32000                  Sep 25 - £10356         Feb 26 - £6872               
    May 25 :  £14000                  Oct 25 -  £9569          Mar 26 - £5998         
    June 25 : £13000                   Nov 25 - £9275                                  
    July 25 :  £12000                   Dec 25 - £8975
    Aug 25 :  £11436                   Jan 26 -  £8065
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