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Full Fibre installation - will they pull through fibre internally?

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  • flaneurs_lobster
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    wongataa said:
    SVaz said:

    It’s a bit odd in that the box on the wall has to be plugged into a socket as well as the router/hub
    It isn't odd at all.  The data coming over fibre is carried by light.  The fibres are optical fibres.  This light has to be detected and then converted into electrical signals your router can work with.  This requires components that need to be powered. This requires the box be plugged into the mains to get this power.

    A little off topic,but having a read of the thread got caught up in it all!  This post will be no help to anyone but I am just here to learn about FTTP..

    I too am baffled,nay,bamboozled by all this ‘plugging into sockets’. Mine was done 2 yrs ago and have upgraded from 150 to 500 thingamejigs 😄..anyway my router is plugged into a socket. The fibre runs through a wall from a pole straight to the router,being plugged into the WAN socket of said router.

    so,what’s all this business about needing another power socket. I only need one for the router.

    I will be pleased to read comments,just to help me learn about these things. Many thanks
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  • matelodave
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    edited 17 November at 6:32PM
    AFAIK non of the providers supply a router* with a direct fibre termination, they all require some way of converting the optical signal into an electrical signal. That device is called an Optical Network Terminal and that requires a power supply. Your router will be connected to the ONT using an ethernet cable.

    If you think you've got something different then please put up a photo

    *I think Virgin Media may have a router with a direct optical interface (ONT type 2) but I dont think anyone else has, certainly not Open Reach
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  • Ok. I have photos. The first shows the rear of the router (obviously) and the second shows where the fibre enters the house vis a small white disc shaped thing (grommet?). There is a power supply hidden behind the bookcase adjacent to where the fibre enters the house,and I have an extension lead plugged in which I use for the router….aha! So there could be something connected to the ‘hidden’ socket behind the bookcase?..


  • Sorry for rather large pics 🤭. Don’t know how to reduce the size!
  • QrizB
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    edited 17 November at 8:41PM
    Ok. I have photos. The first shows the rear of the router (obviously) and the second shows where the fibre enters the house vis a small white disc shaped thing (grommet?).
    That red WAN cable looks like ethernet, not fibre.
    So there could be something connected to the ‘hidden’ socket behind the bookcase?..
    If you trace the WAN cable, is there another device between it and the fibre that enters the house?
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  • littleboo
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    That isn't fibre going into the WAN port
  • iniltous
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    edited 17 November at 10:07PM
    That cable is a regular copper Ethernet cable , the red plug is simply to make connection foolproof , red plug to red socket , the instructions at the time stated connect the red plug to the red socket so even the most technophobic customer could mange a self install ….that cable runs goes from the router WAN port to the ONT , you show one end of that Ethernet cable at the router socket , but you haven’t provided an image for the other end of the Ethernet cable , the other end is plugged in at the ONT , the ONT is mains powered same as the router .
  • Thanks all. So an Ethernet cable from the router runs behind my bookcase , which is too cumbersome to move at the moment. And I see the ‘fibre’ entering via the wall as in the pic…..so having read your replies it seems that there is some sort of connection behind the bookcase? i.e  between the router and fibre entering via the wall? 
    Does that sound right?

    I didn’t watch the installation,i just moved the bookcase🙂.  ….very grateful for replies
  • Not sure what the ONT is,but it seems that this must be hidden behind the bookcase then?
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