Full Fibre installation - will they pull through fibre internally?

Eldi_Dos

@Roy1234

Been thinking about this a bit more, there seems to be many of us who are quite happy with our exsisting service and a quite willing to carry on as is but the program to install FTPP leaves us neading to make change.I myself would be quite happy to switch to FTTP if I could receive assurances that another hole is not drilled in my external wall, but I am unsure anyone can give me that.Which raises in my mind the requirement for a company to remove their exsisting cables inside your house to outside splicing position as they will never be used again once FTTP is installed.

So in answer to your original question I cannot see why the new cables should not be attached to old cables while these are recovered. This is the tack I am going to try and get some assurance on.

JSmithy45AD

Eldi_Dos said:

@Roy1234

Been thinking about this a bit more, there seems to be many of us who are quite happy with our exsisting service and a quite willing to carry on as is but the program to install FTPP leaves us neading to make change.I myself would be quite happy to switch to FTTP if I could receive assurances that another hole is not drilled in my external wall, but I am unsure anyone can give me that.Which raises in my mind the requirement for a company to remove their exsisting cables inside your house to outside splicing position as they will never be used again once FTTP is installed.

So in answer to your original question I cannot see why the new cables should not be attached to old cables while these are recovered. This is the tack I am going to try and get some assurance on.

It's almost guaranteed that a new hole will be needed and they'll always use new cables to save having to come back. The existing internal cables and connections won't be touched, and probably not the external ones either. The internal ones at least are your responsibility.

Eldi_Dos

JSmithy45AD said:

Eldi_Dos said:

@Roy1234

Been thinking about this a bit more, there seems to be many of us who are quite happy with our exsisting service and a quite willing to carry on as is but the program to install FTPP leaves us neading to make change.I myself would be quite happy to switch to FTTP if I could receive assurances that another hole is not drilled in my external wall, but I am unsure anyone can give me that.Which raises in my mind the requirement for a company to remove their exsisting cables inside your house to outside splicing position as they will never be used again once FTTP is installed.

So in answer to your original question I cannot see why the new cables should not be attached to old cables while these are recovered. This is the tack I am going to try and get some assurance on.

It's almost guaranteed that a new hole will be needed and they'll always use new cables to save having to come back. The existing internal cables and connections won't be touched, and probably not the external ones either. The internal ones at least are your responsibility.

Not up to the first ( master socket ) they are the responsibility of whichever company they belong to.

Cables beyond the first socket I would agree with what you say.

Of course they will use new cables for FTTP instal.

Roy1234

Eldi_Dos said:

@Roy1234

Been thinking about this a bit more, there seems to be many of us who are quite happy with our exsisting service and a quite willing to carry on as is but the program to install FTPP leaves us neading to make change.I myself would be quite happy to switch to FTTP if I could receive assurances that another hole is not drilled in my external wall, but I am unsure anyone can give me that.Which raises in my mind the requirement for a company to remove their exsisting cables inside your house to outside splicing position as they will never be used again once FTTP is installed.

So in answer to your original question I cannot see why the new cables should not be attached to old cables while these are recovered. This is the tack I am going to try and get some assurance on.

Yes this is Full Fibre disruption seems to benefit the network more than the customer, most have as much speed as they want with copper wire.  But your internal copper wires will become redundant, because the new junction box outside your house will simply pass on a smaller diameter fibre cable to the ONT socket inside your house.  Their preference seems to be to put the ONT literally the other side of the wall from the external socket (watching some of the videos) meaning the shortest possible run of the second fibre cable, and of course, the least work for the installer.  But as that for most will be at the front of the house, for the majority that will be where the router get's plugged in too. A wasteful (in terms of Wi-Fi strength) non-central position.  It's sounding like they just won't run fibre inside, beyond maybe a cheap & nasty skirting board job.

iniltous

You make many unsubstantiated claims , ‘most have the speed they want ‘ , why are billions being spent providing FTTP if no one wants it , the driver behind your situation is moving onto Digital Voice  not changing to FTTP , your provider and Openreach are simply trying to kill two birds with one stone , FTTP is inevitable, but it’s not currently compulsory you don’t have to take FTTP but that may strand you on an uncompetitive tariff, that’s a choice , what’s more important, no disruption or best price .

Upto 10m of internal cabling is included on a standard FTTp install , no such limit externally that’s why running a cable around the outside of the building is the solution if the ONT is wanted a large distance from the duct entry or where an overhead wire would attach to the building…you can also pay extra to get a premium install , that’s upto 30m internal cabling and advanced installation to go even further internally so your claim it has to be the shortest possible internal cable is wrong , but its always surface wired , what on earth do you expect , walls rebated , cables hidden then re plastered ?

You can still be converted to Digital Voice without also converting to FTTP , given your clear objections I really can’t see why you just don’t cancel the migration to FTTP and just schedule the change to DV only , that way you stay on FTTC for the time being , presumably that’s what you want .