APCOA PCN Manchester Airport Drop-off

RedFacedRunner

I dropped my daughter off at Manchester and had to pay the charge before midnight the following day. I missed the deadline due to technical issues and emailed them the following morning explaining I’d struggled to get online to pay and asked them to advise what I should do. I got no response to the email but received a parking charge through the post. I then emailed again to restate the situation. I unfortunately missed their response - which told me to appeal online…but I missed the appeal deadline and have now received the debt collection letter. In the initial email I said I’d dropped them off - is it now too late to appeal as this confirms I was the driver. Please advise what I should do. Thank you

Coupon-mad

Just ignore them. Nothing happens.

s_etty

All I did was exactly what was suggested on here. Registered keeper, do one. They did one. Both charges cancelled. Thank you all, £200 in my pocket and not those rapacious !!!!!!

Sherka

So, this is the message I'm going to send. I got a £170 fine, they said I'd not responsed to previous letter but I never received one.

I am the registered keeper. APCOA cannot hold a registered keeper liable for any alleged contravention on land that is under statutory control. As a matter of fact and law, APCOA will be well aware that they cannot use the PoFA provisions because Manchester Airport is not 'relevant land'.

If Manchester Airport wanted to hold owners or keepers liable under Airport Bylaws, that would be within the landowner's gift and another matter entirely. However, not only is that not pleaded, it is also not legally possible because APCOA is not the Airport owner and your 'parking charge' is not and never attempts to be a penalty. It is created for APCOA's own profit (as opposed to a bylaws penalty that goes to the public purse) and APCOA has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. APCOA have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.

There's no email address to appeal to on the letter. Does anyone know the email address, or website form where I appeal?

Cheers

Umkomaas

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82000753#Comment_82000753

I’m afraid you’re too late to make any meaningful appeal as the £170 suggests you are at the debt collector stage. As APCOA take nothing further, and debt collectors can do nothing but send silly letters, just ignore anything now going forward.

A frequent reason for not receiving the original posting of the PCN is that the vehicle’s V5C (logbook) has an out of date address for the registered keeper. Please check yours. Not updating with the DVLA can result in a £1,000 real fine. Changes can be made online.

Gr1pr

JJust Ignore them if its at the £170 powerless debt collectors letters stage

Coupon-mad

As I advised already and was ignored.

It is too late to appeal. It's at ignore stage.

Sherka

Hi everyone, many thanks for your speedy responses and apologies for my delay in replying!

my letter says I can:

Pay £170 in full
Payment Plan
Do nothing - "intent not to pay" added to case

I want to do as you suggest, and ignore it, but I'm afraid of a higher penalty and CCJ. The letter says "If you don't respond, you are making an active choice. Our client reserves the right to take this as evidence of your intent not to pay". Should I not reply saying I refuse to pay?

Appreciate your help!

Umkomaas

No one here pays APCOA (or their hound-dog debt collectors). APCOA never sue anyone so why are you concerned about ‘higher penalty’ or ‘CCJ’? Never happens.

Sherka

Fair enough, I'll bin the demands.

This should be illegal, why don't the governnment just shut this kind of citizen harassment down. They posted revenue of £125,000,000 in 2024.

Parasites

Thanks for your help