Person tripped over my outside cable cover whilst charging car...

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Grumpy_chap said:

born_again said:

Very poorly photoshop image.... Charge flap is missing 

I noted also there is no number plate on the car.
Driver is wearing all white suit and crash helmet.
I wondered whether this was a Top Gear spoof set up...

It is from a Road & Track test report. https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/a22625274/tesla-model-3-performance-track-test/

Grumpy_chap

facade said:

It is from a Road & Track test report. https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/a22625274/tesla-model-3-performance-track-test/

Thanks - so totally photoshopped to add the generator.  Explains the smoke going the wrong way.
In a way I'm disappointed that it was not a Top Gear spoof - it is the kind of thing they would have done to rig up a lead and some kind of suction pack that made it look like it was plugged in

TooManyPoints

- so totally photoshopped to add the generator.

Do you mean it's not genuine. I'm absolutely astonished - and so disappointed!   :   

MattMattMattUK

Baldytyke88 said:

maxmycardagain said:

Basically it means EV's will remain exclusive to home occupiers with thier own off-road parking or owner will be forced to charge up at office/garage/charging points thereby losing any saving over IC cars...


or.............

Surely some employers will allow use of their charging points on a not-for-profit basis.

I know a lot that already do, they took the cost of installation as a cost to the business and allow employees to charge at cost, one I know who does this even offers a rota system for charging, so that cars do not stay plugged in fully charged and the employees can get the most use.

Grumpy_chap

MattMattMattUK said:

I know a lot that already do, they took the cost of installation as a cost to the business and allow employees to charge at cost, one I know who does this even offers a rota system for charging, so that cars do not stay plugged in fully charged and the employees can get the most use.

Workplace charging is, possibly, more contentious than public charging.  The place I worked at prior to Covid had workplace charging installed and operated by one of the public charging networks with a standard charge tariff.  That included the idle charge fees.  That makes sense from the point of view of the charging operator, but is a nonsense from the point of view of the employer as it means you have employees needing to schedule their work tasks around the need to shuffle cars.

QrizB

The business/industrial park up the road from me has a liberal sprinkle of Type 2 AC chargers, some public but mostly private. I guess they suit 9-to-5 businesses as the employee can plug in when they arrive and not worry about it again until they leave.

MattMattMattUK

Grumpy_chap said:

MattMattMattUK said:

I know a lot that already do, they took the cost of installation as a cost to the business and allow employees to charge at cost, one I know who does this even offers a rota system for charging, so that cars do not stay plugged in fully charged and the employees can get the most use.

Workplace charging is, possibly, more contentious than public charging.  The place I worked at prior to Covid had workplace charging installed and operated by one of the public charging networks with a standard charge tariff.  That included the idle charge fees.  That makes sense from the point of view of the charging operator, but is a nonsense from the point of view of the employer as it means you have employees needing to schedule their work tasks around the need to shuffle cars.

I think it depends on the business. There is paid EV charging at the site I have my office, it is a fairly reasonable 28p per kWh and I could not care in the slightest if one of my employees popped out of the office for ten minutes to plug in or unplug their car and the other companies on site all take a similar view. With regard to the customer who has a rota they are a manufacturing company, all the changeover times are scheduled breaks and/or shift changes, designed so that everyone gets a chance to use the charging as they cannot install more chargers due to capacity (they would need capacity for lots of cars to all charge at once, for half an hour until they were full, which makes little sense).

Grumpy_chap

MattMattMattUK said:

I could not care in the slightest if one of my employees popped out of the office for ten minutes to plug in or unplug their car 

I agree, it is not the 10 minutes popping away from the desk to shuffle the car that has the impact on the business.  That is not different from a cigarette / vape / coffee / toilet break.  
It is the forced timing of that from a paid charging service which applies punitive idle fees if the car is not unplugged and moved away within 5 or 10 minutes of charging completing.  These events land in the middle of meetings or whatever, then it becomes disruptive.  Or the employee completes the meeting and then finds a penalty charge of some prohibitive amount of £s.  Bear in mind idle fees typically accrue at £0.50 to £1 per minute - finishing a meeting first that might be £20 which is a big hit.  Or disrupt the meeting to avoid the charge.

born_again

Grumpy_chap said:

MattMattMattUK said:

I know a lot that already do, they took the cost of installation as a cost to the business and allow employees to charge at cost, one I know who does this even offers a rota system for charging, so that cars do not stay plugged in fully charged and the employees can get the most use.

Workplace charging is, possibly, more contentious than public charging.  The place I worked at prior to Covid had workplace charging installed and operated by one of the public charging networks with a standard charge tariff.  That included the idle charge fees.  That makes sense from the point of view of the charging operator, but is a nonsense from the point of view of the employer as it means you have employees needing to schedule their work tasks around the need to shuffle cars.

Max of 4 hours on ours. But it's not a issue to move car as you get breaks.
All for free as well 😍

ohreallƳ

I've got to laugh at the workplace charging issue. A school I visited had a 13A plugtop charger/ cable running into the school kitchen sockets, plugged in every day and left charging - it was the head teachers' vehicle. Staff were suitably unimpressed but unable to raise the issue.