Electric cars not allowed at park home site.

Arunmor

photome said:

Arunmor said:

Many of you assume that EV batteries are of sufficient standard.

Which ones aren’t ?

OK here are a few, dig around and you will find more.

Mercedes EQB
Kia Soul
Hyundai Kona
Ford Kuga PHEV

Sea_Shell

LightFlare said:

Sea_Shell said:

clive0510 said:

Once again thanks for all the replies. this is certainly a very hot topic on here, and as you can imagine even more so around here where I live. I will keep you updated. 

If I were you, I'd be ringing (or emailing, get it in writing) various park/holiday home sites and asking them their policy on this.

If they are almost unanimous in allowing EVs on site, then you'll have a case to present to your site owners, that they are acting unfairly.

Good luck 

As I said many posts ago - that’s irrelevant if their insurance say no.

Unless the residents are willing to pay any increase in premium for an insurer that will accept EVs

I don't know how wide the market it for park home operators insurance is.  But I'd bet there are other policies available.

Do you all insure your own homes individually?   What does your insurance say?

Have they even tried to shop around for an insurer who does cover EVs, or have they just filed it in to "too hard" pile.

Have you seen sight of this "alleged" policy wording/endorsement?

Would the residents, as a whole, agree to higher fees?

Exodi

Probably friends with my MD - who spent the entirety of our last China trip (where EV's are significantly more common) lecturing anyone that would listen about how EV's are seemingly exploding all over the place as you they drive down the motorway, setting airports on fire, etc and he wouldn't dream of being in one of those death traps.

Ironically I drive an EV, but I zone out when he goes into a barrage about whether I'll make it to the post office and back on a single charge, or asking how long it takes to charge my car as it only took him 5 minutes to fill his, or showing me cherry-picked news articles about EV malfunctions which he believes confirms his bias.

I think people (older people especially) are just change averse, as he's certainly not the one I've heard this sort of rhetoric from. Facebook, for example, is absolutely loaded with it. Seemingly nothing gets people more engaged than an image of a temporary EV charger being powered by a diesel generator.

prowla

Mildly_Miffed said:

prowla said:

Presumably you'd be unlikely to be taking a (legal) rented E-bike onto the Underground, so it would tend to to be the personal ones, which aren't legal for use in public places anyway.

You seem to be confused between e-bikes and e-scooters.

Privately owned e-bikes are very much legal for use in public places, providing they conform to construction & use regs, which all the millions sold legitimately in the UK do.

It's e-scooters which are only legal as part of the "trial" rental schemes.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/electrically-assisted-pedal-cycles-eapcs/electrically-assisted-pedal-cycles-eapcs-in-great-britain-information-sheet

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/e-scooter-trials-guidance-for-users

I was - thanks!

LightFlare

Sea_Shell said:

LightFlare said:

Sea_Shell said:

clive0510 said:

Once again thanks for all the replies. this is certainly a very hot topic on here, and as you can imagine even more so around here where I live. I will keep you updated. 

If I were you, I'd be ringing (or emailing, get it in writing) various park/holiday home sites and asking them their policy on this.

If they are almost unanimous in allowing EVs on site, then you'll have a case to present to your site owners, that they are acting unfairly.

Good luck 

As I said many posts ago - that’s irrelevant if their insurance say no.

Unless the residents are willing to pay any increase in premium for an insurer that will accept EVs

I don't know how wide the market it for park home operators insurance is.  But I'd bet there are other policies available.

Do you all insure your own homes individually?   What does your insurance say?

Have they even tried to shop around for an insurer who does cover EVs, or have they just filed it in to "too hard" pile.

Have you seen sight of this "alleged" policy wording/endorsement?

Would the residents, as a whole, agree to higher fees?

Thats for the residents to discuss/raise with the management.

They can either comply with the instruction of no EVs or try and find a solution

born_again

Interesting to see that the like of Haven are even installing charge points on their sites. So clearly can not be much of a issue.

WellKnownSid

ComicGeek said:

It's also likely that the risk assessment doesn't apply the same rigorous assessment process to more established risks like petrol vehicles, gas cannisters, home BBQs, lithium batteries etc due to assessor bias, and the fact that we mentally accept a certain level of risk anyway in our day-to-day lives.

Us humans have a blind spot when it comes to things accepted as 'normal'.

I remember a near miss where a chemical truck containing cyclohexane was hit head-on by a car that had been travelling on the wrong side of the road.  Not a drop was spilled, however the 90's tabloids as I recall were in uproar.  "Dangerous chemicals transported on a public road" no less and this rattled on for weeks.

About six months later a petrol tanker overturned at the entrance to our local Tesco, the driver having taken the roundabout too fast.  Thousands of gallons of flammable fuel poured down the road into the industrial estate, stranding thousands of motorists in the car park for a weekend and closing local businesses.  It barely made the local press 

WellKnownSid

born_again said:

Interesting to see that the like of Haven are even installing charge points on their sites. So clearly can not be much of an issue.

A small family run site we visited last year for a couple of nights were most apologetic they hadn't got theirs wired up yet.

Sea_Shell

LightFlare said:

Sea_Shell said:

LightFlare said:

Sea_Shell said:

clive0510 said:

Once again thanks for all the replies. this is certainly a very hot topic on here, and as you can imagine even more so around here where I live. I will keep you updated. 

If I were you, I'd be ringing (or emailing, get it in writing) various park/holiday home sites and asking them their policy on this.

If they are almost unanimous in allowing EVs on site, then you'll have a case to present to your site owners, that they are acting unfairly.

Good luck 

As I said many posts ago - that’s irrelevant if their insurance say no.

Unless the residents are willing to pay any increase in premium for an insurer that will accept EVs

I don't know how wide the market it for park home operators insurance is.  But I'd bet there are other policies available.

Do you all insure your own homes individually?   What does your insurance say?

Have they even tried to shop around for an insurer who does cover EVs, or have they just filed it in to "too hard" pile.

Have you seen sight of this "alleged" policy wording/endorsement?

Would the residents, as a whole, agree to higher fees?

Thats for the residents to discuss/raise with the management.

They can either comply with the instruction of no EVs or try and find a solution

Well yes, quite.   That's what I was getting at.

Martyn1981

WellKnownSid said:

ComicGeek said:

It's also likely that the risk assessment doesn't apply the same rigorous assessment process to more established risks like petrol vehicles, gas cannisters, home BBQs, lithium batteries etc due to assessor bias, and the fact that we mentally accept a certain level of risk anyway in our day-to-day lives.

Us humans have a blind spot when it comes to things accepted as 'normal'.

I remember a near miss where a chemical truck containing cyclohexane was hit head-on by a car that had been travelling on the wrong side of the road.  Not a drop was spilled, however the 90's tabloids as I recall were in uproar.  "Dangerous chemicals transported on a public road" no less and this rattled on for weeks.

About six months later a petrol tanker overturned at the entrance to our local Tesco, the driver having taken the roundabout too fast.  Thousands of gallons of flammable fuel poured down the road into the industrial estate, stranding thousands of motorists in the car park for a weekend and closing local businesses.  It barely made the local press 

That's a very good point. There's also the issue of whether or not 'I'm' impacted. So in the 90's we all needed/enjoyed petrol/diesel, so why get upset about it being transported, especially if it makes life harder/more expensive for us. But who really needs cyclohexane? [Actually I looked it up, and it's used to make nylon, so in reality, most of us need it. But don't get me started on the transportation of dihydrogen monoxide.]