Electric cars not allowed at park home site.

XRS200

clive0510 said:

having said that none of this solves the core problem of no one on this site being able to own a car in the not to distant future. 

You can own one and park it elsewhere.  Can they create a space away from buildings to park in?

Keep_pedalling

How far apart are these homes? Even the most ferocious EV fire is not going to take out the entire park.

if this was really such a high risk why are they allowed to park in MS car parks and in underground  car parks in flats? 

Are they banning e-bikes as well? There are plenty of dodgy cheap Chinese ones equipped with dangerous batteries that people charge indoors. 

As for insurance I have never been asked if I park my EV at home when applying for home Insurance. 

Hoenir

Car_54 said:

Maybe I'm being dim, but in the very unlikely event of a fire, how could the park be held responsible?

Business interuption insurance cover is essential. 

Think back to the Luton Car Park fire. Only takes a minute for an EV that's on fire to ignite another. With the bttery in the floorpan. The fire/heat is directed towards the ground then travels horizontally outwards. No shortage of timber construction on a park site. With a strong wind. You'll have a repeat of the damage caused in LA. 

photome

Hoenir said:

Car_54 said:

Maybe I'm being dim, but in the very unlikely event of a fire, how could the park be held responsible?

Business interuption insurance cover is essential. 

Think back to the Luton Car Park fire. Only takes a minute for an EV that's on fire to ignite another. With the bttery in the floorpan. The fire/heat is directed towards the ground then travels horizontally outwards. No shortage of timber construction on a park site. With a strong wind. You'll have a repeat of the damage caused in LA. 

The Luton car park fire was caused by a diesel vehicle, are the park going to ban those

LightFlare

Isn’t it all a bit moot

If the park can’t get insurance based on that particular factor then they have 2 choices.

Not allow the thing that is preventing them getting insurance cover

OR

Would the residents be willing to approach the management and agree to pay for any increase in insurance cost that allows coverage for EVs

(assuming insurance is the true reason and not just the park management being idiots)

Bigphil1474

Would also depend on the park. My auntie lives on one in a leafy rural woodland setting. It's a beautiful place to live, but it would be a forest fire of epic precautions if a major EV fire happened. Through work, I deal with safety at large music events and the fire brigade are now talking about having separate car parks for EV's due to the risk of a major fire spreading across hundreds of cars.

Would have thought a Hybrid would be fine, but think XRS above has the best solution - parking/charging area away from the homes so even if they do set on fire, they don't do any major damage to the park.

MEM62

clive0510 said:

I live in a park home on a residential site. All the residents here have been furnished with a letter informing us that all electric vehicles are to be excluded from the site, due to the fire risk. My take on that, is that given the governments big push to promote electric vehicles, we eventually will not be able to have a car. I'm just wondering if there are any other park home owners on here, and if so are you faced with the same dilemma?

That will not be the case for decades.  Whilst you may not be able to purchase a new one, used ICE cars will be around for many years yet.  

Herzlos

photome said:

Hoenir said:

Car_54 said:

Maybe I'm being dim, but in the very unlikely event of a fire, how could the park be held responsible?

Business interuption insurance cover is essential. 

Think back to the Luton Car Park fire. Only takes a minute for an EV that's on fire to ignite another. With the bttery in the floorpan. The fire/heat is directed towards the ground then travels horizontally outwards. No shortage of timber construction on a park site. With a strong wind. You'll have a repeat of the damage caused in LA. 

The Luton car park fire was caused by a diesel vehicle, are the park going to ban those

I think the argument is that the way an EV burns (down/across) it's more likely to spread than an ICE car (up/out). The ICE car is more likely to start the fire, but if it's parked next to an EV that outcome is the same.


The more rational thing may be to require EV's to park away from the homes, bins, etc. on gravel standing.  There's almost certainly some space for it. Then once the paranoia dies down, they can go back to parking more conveniently.

Bigwheels1111

I have driven over a million miles, cars 20 plus of my own, Diesel, Petrol and 2 Hybrids, motorcycles 9 and Hgv 2 & Hgv 1 over 100 of them.
Some have been well maintained and some not so well maintained.
I the past I remember seeing vehicles on fire quite regularly. Joy of being old.
Not seen one for over 20 years.
Ive had accidents in the past, never had one catch fire.
35 years ago I rolled a triumph stag with a carburettor, that went up like a Roman candle.🧨 
Not an accident, me being a !!!!!!.
I help friends that all have a Toyota Prius, 20 of them, all cab drivers, all their cars have over 250,000 miles.
None have caught fire, I have rebuilt 2 batteries, plus replaced 7 or 9 can’t remember.

I do not own an EV, but friends do.
None have had any charging issues, or caught fire.
As a precaution they have all decided to only charge on an open drive and not in the garage.
4 could not get house insurance this year, until they agreed no garage charging, price doubled.
Ive seen a caravan go up in flames, it’s very fast, so understand their concerns.

I’m on the fence, My car is a diesel 9 years old this year.
So will be changing in the next 5 years.
Diesel, probably not.
Petrol, high probability.
Hybrid, near certainty.
EV, 50/50. Charging infrastructure needs to vastly improve. Price is a joke. 89p kWh.
Petrol & Diesel is cheaper, my diesel costs 10p a mile.
Before you start jumping up and down, I CHARGE AT HOME FOR 5p OR 7p.
Most people I know with an EV live in or near London, they do not have a driveway, so can’t charge at home.
So the EV costs double if not triple to run compared to Diesel.

One friend can charge at home and in 20,000 miles has only done so 10 times max.
Two times a year on public chargers during holidays.
He drops it off at Sainsburys on the way to the station and plugs it in to charge for free, 4 hours worth.
Wife picks it up after dropping kids at school, twice a week gets a full battery.
Near on 20,000 free miles.

Glad I’ve go a few years to see where the wind blows.

Sea_Shell

Sounds ridiculous to me.   

I'd bet that many many sites are actually INSTALLING EV charging points.