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Ebay gone to far with new policy change from 4th Feb 2025!

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  • noitsnotme
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    RFW said:

    eBay's ruthless business attitude stinks and eventually eBay will fail one day when another site comes along which they cannot close down or buy out.

     
    There are loads of other marketplaces. Facebook is free, although soon to feature Ebay listings on their marketplace, there's Amazon, Etsy, Vinted, Preloved, Shpock, Depop, Folksy, Nextdoor, Gumtree and many more. They're all ruthless in their own way. Amazon make Ebay look like pussycats as far as being ruthless goes.

    As a business I'm currently on 5 marketplaces plus my own website. Ebay is third on revenue and fourth on profit, I'll probably ditch it again in a couple of months. You really don't have to use Ebay. I say that as someone who used to have it as their main source of income.

    I'm gonna give Ebid a go, 
    Don’t bother, it’s a complete waste of time.  In 15 years I have sold tens of thousands of items on eBay.  On ebid I sold one!!
  • Spoonie_Turtle
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    danny69 said:
    One idea for eBay would be to limit the number of items that can be listed. How many do Private Sellers get per month? Is it 300? Who needs to list 300 items of unwanted items?! 
    People clearing out houses, people selling off collections, people who buy a lot in their everyday life and doesn't use it for long before upgrading/replacing, etc.

    I doubt most real private sellers need that many listings.  But there is a psychological benefit to not having to worry about listing limits, you just list as much and as often as you want without being put off by the possibility of hitting any caps or having to check first.  And people being more willing to list = slightly more money for eBay.
  • bittyboy101
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    edited 26 January at 2:01AM
    RFW said:

    eBay's ruthless business attitude stinks and eventually eBay will fail one day when another site comes along which they cannot close down or buy out.

     
    There are loads of other marketplaces. Facebook is free, although soon to feature Ebay listings on their marketplace, there's Amazon, Etsy, Vinted, Preloved, Shpock, Depop, Folksy, Nextdoor, Gumtree and many more. They're all ruthless in their own way. Amazon make Ebay look like pussycats as far as being ruthless goes.

    As a business I'm currently on 5 marketplaces plus my own website. Ebay is third on revenue and fourth on profit, I'll probably ditch it again in a couple of months. You really don't have to use Ebay. I say that as someone who used to have it as their main source of income.

    I'm gonna give Ebid a go, 
    Don’t bother, it’s a complete waste of time.  In 15 years I have sold tens of thousands of items on eBay.  On ebid I sold one!!
    Ebid can't be any worse than the eBay we now have !

    Before eBay revised Cassini and launched item specifics I had sold 684 items with strong regular weekly sales... since the revised "Cassini" and "item specifics" I only sold just 36 items in 4 years.

    They really messed up everything by doing away with certain categories and merging everything all into one giant pool category which now defaults to "best match" when someone goes to search for an item on eBay 
     

    eBay now shows tons of irrelevant stuff mainly from USA and lots of Chinese seller junk, even selecting "UK only" still brings up lots of fake UK seller stuff where the seller lies by saying that the item is in UK/ships from UK in 2-3 days when it is really being shipped from China with an 11 day wait !

    To be honest as an experienced and well seasoned eBay seller of 20 years I have noticed a massive decline in sales and interest over the last 4 years... items which used to sell well like hot cakes after only 1-2 views now sit there indefinitely for weeks, months, years with next to no views and even relisting under "sell similar item" now no longer works to revive sales as eBay have done something to block this.

    To add insult to injury whenever I look at my own listing page I see other people's items which are being sold much cheaper than I can afford to sell for...so I've now lost before I've even started !... as any potential buyer who's looking at my item will also see another one cheaper and buy that one instead !.... leaving me completely undermined !!

    So this is now what eBay is like... and with the new 2025 changes to eBay regarding managed shipping (forced "Simple Delivery") and severely delayed payments of now 48 hours after a confirmed delivery ! make eBay even more less appealing than ever !

    So I am willing to try any other selling site that just lets me sell straight forward  without any hiccups of slow payment and over the top  changes which cause a degree of inconvenience and concern when a seller has no liberty or say   which delivery service eBay will randomly use on your behalf to deliver your expensive sold item to your buyer...         

  • noitsnotme
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    edited 26 January at 2:01AM
    RFW said:

    eBay's ruthless business attitude stinks and eventually eBay will fail one day when another site comes along which they cannot close down or buy out.

     
    There are loads of other marketplaces. Facebook is free, although soon to feature Ebay listings on their marketplace, there's Amazon, Etsy, Vinted, Preloved, Shpock, Depop, Folksy, Nextdoor, Gumtree and many more. They're all ruthless in their own way. Amazon make Ebay look like pussycats as far as being ruthless goes.

    As a business I'm currently on 5 marketplaces plus my own website. Ebay is third on revenue and fourth on profit, I'll probably ditch it again in a couple of months. You really don't have to use Ebay. I say that as someone who used to have it as their main source of income.

    I'm gonna give Ebid a go, 
    Don’t bother, it’s a complete waste of time.  In 15 years I have sold tens of thousands of items on eBay.  On ebid I sold one!!
    Ebid can't be any worse than the eBay we now have !



    It’s a thousand times worse.  Ebid started about the same time as eBay.  EBay has multi millions of potential buyers.  Ebid, maybe a few hundred.  If you want to kid yourself that ebid is serious competition for eBay then knock yourself out.  Good luck!
  • bittyboy101
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    edited 26 January at 2:20AM
    RFW said:

    eBay's ruthless business attitude stinks and eventually eBay will fail one day when another site comes along which they cannot close down or buy out.

     
    There are loads of other marketplaces. Facebook is free, although soon to feature Ebay listings on their marketplace, there's Amazon, Etsy, Vinted, Preloved, Shpock, Depop, Folksy, Nextdoor, Gumtree and many more. They're all ruthless in their own way. Amazon make Ebay look like pussycats as far as being ruthless goes.

    As a business I'm currently on 5 marketplaces plus my own website. Ebay is third on revenue and fourth on profit, I'll probably ditch it again in a couple of months. You really don't have to use Ebay. I say that as someone who used to have it as their main source of income.

    I'm gonna give Ebid a go, 
    Don’t bother, it’s a complete waste of time.  In 15 years I have sold tens of thousands of items on eBay.  On ebid I sold one!!
    Ebid can't be any worse than the eBay we now have !



    It’s a thousand times worse.  Ebid started about the same time as eBay.  EBay has multi millions of potential buyers.  Ebid, maybe a few hundred.  If you want to kid yourself that ebid is serious competition for eBay then knock yourself out.  Good luck!
    Even better with less competition ! - I am not looking for a million buyers, nor have I got a million items to sell anyone... just the one buyer will do nicely... they see it EASILY because of  no competition and they like it and BUY IT ! They pay by PayPal and I receive INSTANT PAYMENT in my PayPal account which I can transfer to my bank instantly and use to pay for the postage of my buyers item at the Post Office counter for the BEST SERVICE to safeguard myself from the item getting lost or delivered late.

    On their site Ebid state something like;-  "Ebid started in 1995 and unlike other selling platforms during all this time we have kept everything the same without making any changes that other platforms keep on making" 

    I like this. I don't like changes. I like simplicity and things to stay the same years later. 

    I like these Ebid guys. They are sensible and understand what people want.... and that is what they are used to ! not new stuff which is a headache.   
  • noitsnotme
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    RFW said:

    eBay's ruthless business attitude stinks and eventually eBay will fail one day when another site comes along which they cannot close down or buy out.

     
    There are loads of other marketplaces. Facebook is free, although soon to feature Ebay listings on their marketplace, there's Amazon, Etsy, Vinted, Preloved, Shpock, Depop, Folksy, Nextdoor, Gumtree and many more. They're all ruthless in their own way. Amazon make Ebay look like pussycats as far as being ruthless goes.

    As a business I'm currently on 5 marketplaces plus my own website. Ebay is third on revenue and fourth on profit, I'll probably ditch it again in a couple of months. You really don't have to use Ebay. I say that as someone who used to have it as their main source of income.

    I'm gonna give Ebid a go, 
    Don’t bother, it’s a complete waste of time.  In 15 years I have sold tens of thousands of items on eBay.  On ebid I sold one!!
    Ebid can't be any worse than the eBay we now have !



    It’s a thousand times worse.  Ebid started about the same time as eBay.  EBay has multi millions of potential buyers.  Ebid, maybe a few hundred.  If you want to kid yourself that ebid is serious competition for eBay then knock yourself out.  Good luck!
    Even better with less competition ! - I am not looking for a million buyers, nor have I got a million items to sell anyone... just the one buyer will do nicely... they see it EASILY because of  no competition and they like it and BUY IT ! They pay by PayPal and I receive INSTANT PAYMENT in my PayPal account which I can transfer to my bank instantly and use to pay for the postage of my buyers item at the Post Office counter for the BEST SERVICE to safeguard myself from the item getting lost or delivered late.

    On their site Ebid state something like;-  "Ebid started in 1995 and unlike other selling platforms during all this time we have kept everything the same without making any changes that other platforms keep on making" 

    I like this. I don't like changes. I like simplicity and things to stay the same years later. 

    I like these Ebid guys. They are sensible and understand what people want.... and that is what they are used to ! not new stuff which is a headache.   
    As I said ….. good luck, but don’t hold your breath!!
  • soolin
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    RFW said:

    eBay's ruthless business attitude stinks and eventually eBay will fail one day when another site comes along which they cannot close down or buy out.

     
    There are loads of other marketplaces. Facebook is free, although soon to feature Ebay listings on their marketplace, there's Amazon, Etsy, Vinted, Preloved, Shpock, Depop, Folksy, Nextdoor, Gumtree and many more. They're all ruthless in their own way. Amazon make Ebay look like pussycats as far as being ruthless goes.

    As a business I'm currently on 5 marketplaces plus my own website. Ebay is third on revenue and fourth on profit, I'll probably ditch it again in a couple of months. You really don't have to use Ebay. I say that as someone who used to have it as their main source of income.

    I'm gonna give Ebid a go, 
    Don’t bother, it’s a complete waste of time.  In 15 years I have sold tens of thousands of items on eBay.  On ebid I sold one!!
    Ebid can't be any worse than the eBay we now have !



    It’s a thousand times worse.  Ebid started about the same time as eBay.  EBay has multi millions of potential buyers.  Ebid, maybe a few hundred.  If you want to kid yourself that ebid is serious competition for eBay then knock yourself out.  Good luck!
    Even better with less competition ! - I am not looking for a million buyers, nor have I got a million items to sell anyone... just the one buyer will do nicely... they see it EASILY because of  no competition and they like it and BUY IT ! They pay by PayPal and I receive INSTANT PAYMENT in my PayPal account which I can transfer to my bank instantly and use to pay for the postage of my buyers item at the Post Office counter for the BEST SERVICE to safeguard myself from the item getting lost or delivered late.

    On their site Ebid state something like;-  "Ebid started in 1995 and unlike other selling platforms during all this time we have kept everything the same without making any changes that other platforms keep on making" 

    I like this. I don't like changes. I like simplicity and things to stay the same years later. 

    I like these Ebid guys. They are sensible and understand what people want.... and that is what they are used to ! not new stuff which is a headache.   
    I ran ‘shops’ on ebid (they don’t call them shops) for a few years, I think I sold 2 items whereas I was selling hundreds a month on eBay. I gave up but every now and then I do list 30 or 40 items , I did it a year or so again when a regular actually claimed to have sold something on ebid after over a year of listing. I left the items to run for the full 3 or months they do routinely, sold nothing so gave up again and sold them on eBay. That’s with all the photos and listing upgrades that a lifetime membership allows.

    The trick with ebid is that you have to advertise your items outside of ebid, people don’t browse ebid like they do eBay, you need to be setting up adverts and links wherever it is allowed on other sites to get people to your individual items. There are forums you can use to chat and advertise on ebid, but they don’t get much traffic, but have a look at advice on there. 


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  • RFW
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    On their site Ebid state something like;-  "Ebid started in 1995 and unlike other selling platforms during all this time we have kept everything the same without making any changes that other platforms keep on making" 

    I like this. I don't like changes. I like simplicity and things to stay the same years later. 


    Fair play to Ebid but you're not dealing like for like comparing them to Ebay. Ebid pretty much doesn't exist, they've barely got a turnover. It's like comparing someone selling out of a suitcase to Tesco.

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03697708/filing-history


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  • RFW
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    danny69 said:
    One idea for eBay would be to limit the number of items that can be listed. How many do Private Sellers get per month? Is it 300? Who needs to list 300 items of unwanted items?! 
    People clearing out houses, people selling off collections, people who buy a lot in their everyday life and doesn't use it for long before upgrading/replacing, etc.

    I doubt most real private sellers need that many listings.  But there is a psychological benefit to not having to worry about listing limits, you just list as much and as often as you want without being put off by the possibility of hitting any caps or having to check first.  And people being more willing to list = slightly more money for eBay.
    I understand them having it but I'm amazed they can keep track. As a private seller I couldn't imagine putting more than a dozen items per week on.

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  • bittyboy101
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    RFW said:

    On their site Ebid state something like;-  "Ebid started in 1995 and unlike other selling platforms during all this time we have kept everything the same without making any changes that other platforms keep on making" 

    I like this. I don't like changes. I like simplicity and things to stay the same years later. 


    Fair play to Ebid but you're not dealing like for like comparing them to Ebay. Ebid pretty much doesn't exist, they've barely got a turnover. It's like comparing someone selling out of a suitcase to Tesco.

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03697708/filing-history


    ...but you're forgetting that back in 1995 eBay was also a small "suitcase company" compared to Tesco which had been around for decades long before we had the Internet and eBay came along...

    With eBay, they just kept on advertising and expanding more and more as the years went by, whilst Ebid just remained the same (as a hobby auction site), eBay did originally start off also as an hobby auction site but their wealthy  American owner - Pierre Omidyar had other ideas of doing more and more to increase eBay's size and turnover... whilst the British owned Ebid just remained the same - as an down to earth hobby auction site with no real changes.

    ...but now it seems that eBay have become too overgrown and the searches are bloated, so they have to ration sales from small business sellers and private sellers and give priority to the big power sellers who have multi million pound business deals invested with eBay and must keep within their targeted sales as eBay must deliver what their multi million pound deal promised !

    So it's clear that eBay now has no regards for small sellers, whether private or business, so they are pushed back and no longer make the regular sales that they once used to make before eBay started doing big business deals with lots of China sellers and big companies which are now all that matters to eBay.

    So eBay can stay big, there is such a thing as TOO BIG !      
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