Landlord want us to go direct , advice please

FlorayG

EssexHebridean said:

I'm afraid it sounds to me very much as though your LL is gearing up to get you out. I would plan accordingly. (I am also suspicious that he has done everything he can to line you up that in fact you have given Notice to quit on the tenancy - a rather low trick!) 

That's exactly what I think, LL is being sneaky. That's why I advised OP to keep copies of all correspondence in order to be able to prove they were misled and their giving notice is invalid

FlorayG

Will123321 said:

eddddy said:

Will123321 said:

That’s correct how you have described. He mentioned that new contract will be given once the end date with agency will be confirmed.

OK - so you understand that you don't have to sign the new contract, ever!  Not now, and not in February.

The only reason to sign the new contract is if there is something in it that is good for you.

If the new contract has things which are bad for you, you shouldn't sign it.


(Edit to add...

But having said that, it is possible that the landlord can serve an eviction notice if you refuse to sign the new contract. So you might have to give in and sign if that happens.) 

He already have served us with section 21, but that’s being said that he want to keep us and just fire the agency. 

He can easily take back the S21 that's no problem at all - if he gives you a new contract that S21 will be invalid anyway

Will123321

EssexHebridean said:

Think about this logically OP>

You have said that you currently have a contract where you are named as the tenants and your LL is named as the LL - correct? 
If the answer to the above is "yes" then you understand that YOU have no contract with the agency - yes? (The LL has a contract with them, but that is his problem, not yours)

So allowing that you have a contract already with the LL, ask yourself why he would need to terminate that agreement in order to sever his own - completely separate - deal with the agent?

I'm afraid it sounds to me very much as though your LL is gearing up to get you out. I would plan accordingly. (I am also suspicious that he has done everything he can to line you up that in fact you have given Notice to quit on the tenancy - a rather low trick!) 

Thanks, well we haven’t confirmed it yet regarding the termination date. 

Will123321

FlorayG said:

Will123321 said:

eddddy said:

Will123321 said:

That’s correct how you have described. He mentioned that new contract will be given once the end date with agency will be confirmed.

OK - so you understand that you don't have to sign the new contract, ever!  Not now, and not in February.

The only reason to sign the new contract is if there is something in it that is good for you.

If the new contract has things which are bad for you, you shouldn't sign it.


(Edit to add...

But having said that, it is possible that the landlord can serve an eviction notice if you refuse to sign the new contract. So you might have to give in and sign if that happens.) 

He already have served us with section 21, but that’s being said that he want to keep us and just fire the agency. 

He can easily take back the S21 that's no problem at all - if he gives you a new contract that S21 will be invalid anyway

We haven’t given or confirmed the termination date with agency but seems the landlord has sent us new contract starting from next month 

FlorayG

It 'seems' he has sent it? Has he sent it or has he not?
If you have it, read it carefully. It should start when the old contract runs out and should not contain any onerous conditions. Remember even if you don't sign it you still have a legal tenancy.

Will123321

FlorayG said:

It 'seems' he has sent it? Has he sent it or has he not?
If you have it, read it carefully. It should start when the old contract runs out and should not contain any onerous conditions. Remember even if you don't sign it you still have a legal tenancy.

I’ve read it now, starts from end of this month, after the date he wanted us to terminate the contract with agency. So I believe that should be ok ? We still confirmed the termination date with agency

FlorayG

If you confirmed the termination date of the last contract then yes you need to sign this one and ignore the S21
After that don't terminate ANYTHING unless you intend to move! 

Will123321

FlorayG said:

If you confirmed the termination date of the last contract then yes you need to sign this one and ignore the S21
After that don't terminate ANYTHING unless you intend to move! 

For some reason he still want us to confirm the termination date with agency even if he have sent us new contract starting from next day of termination with agency. Really odd. 

housebuyer143

Will123321 said:

FlorayG said:

If you confirmed the termination date of the last contract then yes you need to sign this one and ignore the S21
After that don't terminate ANYTHING unless you intend to move! 

For some reason he still want us to confirm the termination date with agency even if he have sent us new contract starting from next day of termination with agency. Really odd. 

He's seems confused, but if you are holding a valid contract signed by him and you, then giving notice to end the current contract, and use the word current in your reply to agency, isn't going to be an issue.

Will123321

housebuyer143 said:

Will123321 said:

FlorayG said:

If you confirmed the termination date of the last contract then yes you need to sign this one and ignore the S21
After that don't terminate ANYTHING unless you intend to move! 

For some reason he still want us to confirm the termination date with agency even if he have sent us new contract starting from next day of termination with agency. Really odd. 

He's seems confused, but if you are holding a valid contract signed by him and you, then giving notice to end the current contract, and use the word current in your reply to agency, isn't going to be an issue.

Well, I’ve asked him why he’d still want to confirm termination date with agency. He have said that it will be more tidy and also know until what date the rent has been paid up to