Landlord want us to go direct , advice please

housebuyer143

Will123321 said:

bobster2 said:

Will123321 said:

Mr.Generous said:

Get the idea out of your mind that the agent decides who can and cannot stay in the house. The landlord decides. If the landlord has a problem with the agent (and I've yet to deal with one who gets things right) then your best bet is to have a proper conversation with the landlord about what he wants to do with regard to the house, and the management of it.

Well, we had a conversation and he said that we have 2 options, waiting till end of tenancy to renew the contract with him directly, or finish earlier and get direct to him earlier. The contract is short term 6 months. We have asked the agency about it and the landlord mentioned to tell the agents that our termination date will be end of the month, and once that is confirmed he will give us new contract. 

I’m really concerned if he decides not to give us the contract what will happen 

There is a 3rd option - you wait until the end of the fixed term of your tenancy and then do nothing.

If you have an Assured Shorthold Tenancy with a fixed term (e.g. 6 months) if you do nothing then at the end of that fixed term it automatically becomes a periodic rolling tenancy. You do not need to sign a new agreement to have an ongoing tenancy.

I wasn’t aware about that. Thanks for the tip. Well, we won’t be able to do that as the landlord wants to get rid of agency and going direct with us. 

You are not listening to the advice. You CAN do that as your current contract is legally between you and the landlord, so it's valid. Look at your current agreement, the landlords name will be on it.

Go back to the agent and tell them you actually don't want to give notice and tell you landlord you are happy to leave it until February. Then wait. 

He can't make you leave so if he fails to then issue you a new contract in Feb, start looking for somewhere else. 

If you go ahead and give notice then more fool you after the advice has been given here to definitely not do that.

Will123321

housebuyer143 said:

Will123321 said:

bobster2 said:

Will123321 said:

Mr.Generous said:

Get the idea out of your mind that the agent decides who can and cannot stay in the house. The landlord decides. If the landlord has a problem with the agent (and I've yet to deal with one who gets things right) then your best bet is to have a proper conversation with the landlord about what he wants to do with regard to the house, and the management of it.

Well, we had a conversation and he said that we have 2 options, waiting till end of tenancy to renew the contract with him directly, or finish earlier and get direct to him earlier. The contract is short term 6 months. We have asked the agency about it and the landlord mentioned to tell the agents that our termination date will be end of the month, and once that is confirmed he will give us new contract. 

I’m really concerned if he decides not to give us the contract what will happen 

There is a 3rd option - you wait until the end of the fixed term of your tenancy and then do nothing.

If you have an Assured Shorthold Tenancy with a fixed term (e.g. 6 months) if you do nothing then at the end of that fixed term it automatically becomes a periodic rolling tenancy. You do not need to sign a new agreement to have an ongoing tenancy.

I wasn’t aware about that. Thanks for the tip. Well, we won’t be able to do that as the landlord wants to get rid of agency and going direct with us. 

You are not listening to the advice. You CAN do that as your current contract is legally between you and the landlord, so it's valid. Look at your current agreement, the landlords name will be on it.

Go back to the agent and tell them you actually don't want to give notice and tell you landlord you are happy to leave it until February. Then wait. 

He can't make you leave so if he fails to then issue you a new contract in Feb, start looking for somewhere else. 

If you go ahead and give notice then more fool you after the advice has been given here to definitely not do that.

Thanks , I think that what we will do. He already replied us back with confirmation that he will give us new contract as soon as the old one is completed with agency. 

FlorayG

First of all, you don't need a new contract. Your contract is ALREADY with the landlord. When this contract expires you don't need a new one, you are on a rolling tenancy. The contract the landlord has with the agent is NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU it's a different contract.
Let me try to explain; you are renting a property from a landlord. The landlord has arranged for an agency to do the hard work for him.He pays the agency for the service.  You are not renting from the agency. 
If you buy a house through an estate agent, you are not buying from the estate agent are you? You are buying from the owner of the house and the agent is just doing the work, for which the owner pays them. Its the same thing. If the landlord intends to let you stay in the property there's no need for a new contract or a Section 21 HOWEVER if YOU give notice then you will be expected to leave. You need to keep every single email and communication from him regarding you being required to cancel the contract, because it seems you have been falsely conned into giving notice to quit
Basically; do nothing. Just keep paying the rent; at some point the landlord will ask you to pay it direct to him instead of to the agency and that's your only involvement
If you have only enquired about terminating early and haven't given an actual date to the agency, contact them today and say you have changed your mind, you don't want to terminate, you want to stay 

Will123321

FlorayG said:

First of all, you don't need a new contract. Your contract is ALREADY with the landlord. When this contact expires you don't need a new one, you are on a rolling tenancy. The contract the landlord has with the agent is NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU it's a different contract.
Let em try to explain; you are renting a property from a landlord. The landlord has arranged for an agency to do the hard work for him.He pays the agency for the service.  You are not renting from the agency. 
If you buy a house through an estate agent, you are not buying from the estate agent are you? You are buying from the owner of the house and the agent is just doing the work, for which the owner pays them. Its the same thing. If the landlord intends to let you stay in the property there's no need for a new contract or a Section 21 HOWEVER if YOU give notice then you will be expected to leave. You need to keep every single email and communication from him regarding you being required to cancel the contract, because it seems you have been falsely conned into giving notice to quit
Basically; do nothing. Just keep paying the rent; at some point the landlord will ask you to pay it direct to him instead of to the agency and that's your only involvement

The landlord have emailed us that he is confirming that once the old agreement it’s end, he will send a new contract direct to him and start paying the rent direct to him from next month after the end date is confirmed with agency. 

He also mentioned that’s this is procedure set by the agency. He also mentioned before that he wants to take over the management of the property. 

FlorayG

Will123321 said:

FlorayG said:

First of all, you don't need a new contract. Your contract is ALREADY with the landlord. When this contact expires you don't need a new one, you are on a rolling tenancy. The contract the landlord has with the agent is NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU it's a different contract.
Let em try to explain; you are renting a property from a landlord. The landlord has arranged for an agency to do the hard work for him.He pays the agency for the service.  You are not renting from the agency. 
If you buy a house through an estate agent, you are not buying from the estate agent are you? You are buying from the owner of the house and the agent is just doing the work, for which the owner pays them. Its the same thing. If the landlord intends to let you stay in the property there's no need for a new contract or a Section 21 HOWEVER if YOU give notice then you will be expected to leave. You need to keep every single email and communication from him regarding you being required to cancel the contract, because it seems you have been falsely conned into giving notice to quit
Basically; do nothing. Just keep paying the rent; at some point the landlord will ask you to pay it direct to him instead of to the agency and that's your only involvement

The landlord have emailed us that he is confirming that once the old agreement it’s end, he will send a new contract direct to him and start paying the rent direct to him from next month after the end date is confirmed with agency. 

He also mentioned that’s this is procedure set by the agency. He also mentioned before that he wants to take over the management of the property. 

That's fine but the important thing is that YOU don't terminate the agreement, because that's you giving notice to quit. Just leave it all up to him

Will123321

FlorayG said:

Will123321 said:

FlorayG said:

First of all, you don't need a new contract. Your contract is ALREADY with the landlord. When this contact expires you don't need a new one, you are on a rolling tenancy. The contract the landlord has with the agent is NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU it's a different contract.
Let em try to explain; you are renting a property from a landlord. The landlord has arranged for an agency to do the hard work for him.He pays the agency for the service.  You are not renting from the agency. 
If you buy a house through an estate agent, you are not buying from the estate agent are you? You are buying from the owner of the house and the agent is just doing the work, for which the owner pays them. Its the same thing. If the landlord intends to let you stay in the property there's no need for a new contract or a Section 21 HOWEVER if YOU give notice then you will be expected to leave. You need to keep every single email and communication from him regarding you being required to cancel the contract, because it seems you have been falsely conned into giving notice to quit
Basically; do nothing. Just keep paying the rent; at some point the landlord will ask you to pay it direct to him instead of to the agency and that's your only involvement

The landlord have emailed us that he is confirming that once the old agreement it’s end, he will send a new contract direct to him and start paying the rent direct to him from next month after the end date is confirmed with agency. 

He also mentioned that’s this is procedure set by the agency. He also mentioned before that he wants to take over the management of the property. 

That's fine but the important thing is that YOU don't terminate the agreement, because that's you giving notice to quit. Just leave it all up to him

The thing is I already have emailed the agency about that, but I haven’t replied back with a date. The landlord wants us to write the end of the month date. 

That was before I came here to ask for advice 

FlorayG

Will123321 said:

FlorayG said:

Will123321 said:

FlorayG said:

First of all, you don't need a new contract. Your contract is ALREADY with the landlord. When this contact expires you don't need a new one, you are on a rolling tenancy. The contract the landlord has with the agent is NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU it's a different contract.
Let em try to explain; you are renting a property from a landlord. The landlord has arranged for an agency to do the hard work for him.He pays the agency for the service.  You are not renting from the agency. 
If you buy a house through an estate agent, you are not buying from the estate agent are you? You are buying from the owner of the house and the agent is just doing the work, for which the owner pays them. Its the same thing. If the landlord intends to let you stay in the property there's no need for a new contract or a Section 21 HOWEVER if YOU give notice then you will be expected to leave. You need to keep every single email and communication from him regarding you being required to cancel the contract, because it seems you have been falsely conned into giving notice to quit
Basically; do nothing. Just keep paying the rent; at some point the landlord will ask you to pay it direct to him instead of to the agency and that's your only involvement

The landlord have emailed us that he is confirming that once the old agreement it’s end, he will send a new contract direct to him and start paying the rent direct to him from next month after the end date is confirmed with agency. 

He also mentioned that’s this is procedure set by the agency. He also mentioned before that he wants to take over the management of the property. 

That's fine but the important thing is that YOU don't terminate the agreement, because that's you giving notice to quit. Just leave it all up to him

The thing is I already have emailed the agency about that, but I haven’t replied back with a date. The landlord wants us to write the end of the month date. 

That was before I came here to ask for advice 

Then tell them you have changed your mind and don't want to do it. If you haven't given a moving out date they can't accept your notice

Will123321

FlorayG said:

Will123321 said:

FlorayG said:

Will123321 said:

FlorayG said:

First of all, you don't need a new contract. Your contract is ALREADY with the landlord. When this contact expires you don't need a new one, you are on a rolling tenancy. The contract the landlord has with the agent is NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU it's a different contract.
Let em try to explain; you are renting a property from a landlord. The landlord has arranged for an agency to do the hard work for him.He pays the agency for the service.  You are not renting from the agency. 
If you buy a house through an estate agent, you are not buying from the estate agent are you? You are buying from the owner of the house and the agent is just doing the work, for which the owner pays them. Its the same thing. If the landlord intends to let you stay in the property there's no need for a new contract or a Section 21 HOWEVER if YOU give notice then you will be expected to leave. You need to keep every single email and communication from him regarding you being required to cancel the contract, because it seems you have been falsely conned into giving notice to quit
Basically; do nothing. Just keep paying the rent; at some point the landlord will ask you to pay it direct to him instead of to the agency and that's your only involvement

The landlord have emailed us that he is confirming that once the old agreement it’s end, he will send a new contract direct to him and start paying the rent direct to him from next month after the end date is confirmed with agency. 

He also mentioned that’s this is procedure set by the agency. He also mentioned before that he wants to take over the management of the property. 

That's fine but the important thing is that YOU don't terminate the agreement, because that's you giving notice to quit. Just leave it all up to him

The thing is I already have emailed the agency about that, but I haven’t replied back with a date. The landlord wants us to write the end of the month date. 

That was before I came here to ask for advice 

Then tell them you have changed your mind and don't want to do it. If you haven't given a moving out date they can't accept your notice

Not sure why the landlord is pushing us to terminate the contract with agency and go directly to him. Probably he doesn’t want pay agency fees. 

Still waiting on landlord email reply. 

FlorayG

Will123321 said:

FlorayG said:

Will123321 said:

FlorayG said:

Will123321 said:

FlorayG said:

First of all, you don't need a new contract. Your contract is ALREADY with the landlord. When this contact expires you don't need a new one, you are on a rolling tenancy. The contract the landlord has with the agent is NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU it's a different contract.
Let em try to explain; you are renting a property from a landlord. The landlord has arranged for an agency to do the hard work for him.He pays the agency for the service.  You are not renting from the agency. 
If you buy a house through an estate agent, you are not buying from the estate agent are you? You are buying from the owner of the house and the agent is just doing the work, for which the owner pays them. Its the same thing. If the landlord intends to let you stay in the property there's no need for a new contract or a Section 21 HOWEVER if YOU give notice then you will be expected to leave. You need to keep every single email and communication from him regarding you being required to cancel the contract, because it seems you have been falsely conned into giving notice to quit
Basically; do nothing. Just keep paying the rent; at some point the landlord will ask you to pay it direct to him instead of to the agency and that's your only involvement

The landlord have emailed us that he is confirming that once the old agreement it’s end, he will send a new contract direct to him and start paying the rent direct to him from next month after the end date is confirmed with agency. 

He also mentioned that’s this is procedure set by the agency. He also mentioned before that he wants to take over the management of the property. 

That's fine but the important thing is that YOU don't terminate the agreement, because that's you giving notice to quit. Just leave it all up to him

The thing is I already have emailed the agency about that, but I haven’t replied back with a date. The landlord wants us to write the end of the month date. 

That was before I came here to ask for advice 

Then tell them you have changed your mind and don't want to do it. If you haven't given a moving out date they can't accept your notice

Still waiting on landlord email reply. 

Reply regarding what? His contract with the agency is nothing to do with you, it's his problem. Please just take the advice everyone is giving you here and DO NOT ASK TO TERMINATE YOUR CONTRACT

Will123321

FlorayG said:

Will123321 said:

FlorayG said:

Will123321 said:

FlorayG said:

Will123321 said:

FlorayG said:

First of all, you don't need a new contract. Your contract is ALREADY with the landlord. When this contact expires you don't need a new one, you are on a rolling tenancy. The contract the landlord has with the agent is NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU it's a different contract.
Let em try to explain; you are renting a property from a landlord. The landlord has arranged for an agency to do the hard work for him.He pays the agency for the service.  You are not renting from the agency. 
If you buy a house through an estate agent, you are not buying from the estate agent are you? You are buying from the owner of the house and the agent is just doing the work, for which the owner pays them. Its the same thing. If the landlord intends to let you stay in the property there's no need for a new contract or a Section 21 HOWEVER if YOU give notice then you will be expected to leave. You need to keep every single email and communication from him regarding you being required to cancel the contract, because it seems you have been falsely conned into giving notice to quit
Basically; do nothing. Just keep paying the rent; at some point the landlord will ask you to pay it direct to him instead of to the agency and that's your only involvement

The landlord have emailed us that he is confirming that once the old agreement it’s end, he will send a new contract direct to him and start paying the rent direct to him from next month after the end date is confirmed with agency. 

He also mentioned that’s this is procedure set by the agency. He also mentioned before that he wants to take over the management of the property. 

That's fine but the important thing is that YOU don't terminate the agreement, because that's you giving notice to quit. Just leave it all up to him

The thing is I already have emailed the agency about that, but I haven’t replied back with a date. The landlord wants us to write the end of the month date. 

That was before I came here to ask for advice 

Then tell them you have changed your mind and don't want to do it. If you haven't given a moving out date they can't accept your notice

Still waiting on landlord email reply. 

Reply regarding what? His contract with the agency is nothing to do with you, it's his problem. Please just take the advice everyone is giving you here and DO NOT ASK TO
TERMINATE YOUR CONTRACT

I will probably email that happy to wait till end of tenancy and start direct with him.

I asked him what will be the procedure if we confirm the date and we will be expected to leave the house while he wants us to go directly with him.