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Landlord want us to go direct , advice please
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Don`t contact the agent, let the landlord contact you, look for another flat if it makes you feel more secure (and if there are cheaper options it could be a good bargaining tool for a rent reduction) I don`t know where you are but here in Scotland there are hundreds of To Let signs up now, the economy seems to be tanking fast up here.Will123321 said:
And if we give the notice to the agency and the landlord won’t give the contract, would we will have to leave on the termination date we have given ? It is a complex situation, but I want to be on a safe side , especially before Christmashousebuyer143 said:
If he doesn't give you a contract, and you haven't given notice then you don't leave at the end of the section 21 and he then starts court proceedings. You probably then have a few months to find something and leave before it goes to court.Will123321 said:
Well, we had a conversation and he said that we have 2 options, waiting till end of tenancy to renew the contract with him directly, or finish earlier and get direct to him earlier. The contract is short term 6 months. We have asked the agency about it and the landlord mentioned to tell the agents that our termination date will be end of the month, and once that is confirmed he will give us new contract.Mr.Generous said:Get the idea out of your mind that the agent decides who can and cannot stay in the house. The landlord decides. If the landlord has a problem with the agent (and I've yet to deal with one who gets things right) then your best bet is to have a proper conversation with the landlord about what he wants to do with regard to the house, and the management of it.I’m really concerned if he decides not to give us the contract what will happen
I imagine though he will issue you a contract because it does seem too convuluted to be honest, as he could just tell you you need to go rather than make this strange story up.0 -
Based on Yorkshire at the moment. Yes , the landlord did put us in an uncomfortable situation with rent.ReadySteadyPop said:
Don`t contact the agent, let the landlord contact you, look for another flat if it makes you feel more secure (and if there are cheaper options it could be a good bargaining tool for a rent reduction) I don`t know where you are but here in Scotland there are hundreds of To Let signs up now, the economy seems to be tanking fast up here.Will123321 said:
And if we give the notice to the agency and the landlord won’t give the contract, would we will have to leave on the termination date we have given ? It is a complex situation, but I want to be on a safe side , especially before Christmashousebuyer143 said:
If he doesn't give you a contract, and you haven't given notice then you don't leave at the end of the section 21 and he then starts court proceedings. You probably then have a few months to find something and leave before it goes to court.Will123321 said:
Well, we had a conversation and he said that we have 2 options, waiting till end of tenancy to renew the contract with him directly, or finish earlier and get direct to him earlier. The contract is short term 6 months. We have asked the agency about it and the landlord mentioned to tell the agents that our termination date will be end of the month, and once that is confirmed he will give us new contract.Mr.Generous said:Get the idea out of your mind that the agent decides who can and cannot stay in the house. The landlord decides. If the landlord has a problem with the agent (and I've yet to deal with one who gets things right) then your best bet is to have a proper conversation with the landlord about what he wants to do with regard to the house, and the management of it.I’m really concerned if he decides not to give us the contract what will happen
I imagine though he will issue you a contract because it does seem too convuluted to be honest, as he could just tell you you need to go rather than make this strange story up.0 -
I would ask the agent what else they have on their books that you could rent if needed, and approach other agents without informing the landlord (there is always the danger that the agent lets slip to the landlord that you are asking about other properties, so maybe just look at their website for now, but going with the same agent would mean you don`t need a reference from them or the landlord for a new place?) Use PropertyLog to track rental reductions on Rightmove.Will123321 said:
Based on Yorkshire at the moment. Yes , the landlord did put us in an uncomfortable situation with rent.ReadySteadyPop said:
Don`t contact the agent, let the landlord contact you, look for another flat if it makes you feel more secure (and if there are cheaper options it could be a good bargaining tool for a rent reduction) I don`t know where you are but here in Scotland there are hundreds of To Let signs up now, the economy seems to be tanking fast up here.Will123321 said:
And if we give the notice to the agency and the landlord won’t give the contract, would we will have to leave on the termination date we have given ? It is a complex situation, but I want to be on a safe side , especially before Christmashousebuyer143 said:
If he doesn't give you a contract, and you haven't given notice then you don't leave at the end of the section 21 and he then starts court proceedings. You probably then have a few months to find something and leave before it goes to court.Will123321 said:
Well, we had a conversation and he said that we have 2 options, waiting till end of tenancy to renew the contract with him directly, or finish earlier and get direct to him earlier. The contract is short term 6 months. We have asked the agency about it and the landlord mentioned to tell the agents that our termination date will be end of the month, and once that is confirmed he will give us new contract.Mr.Generous said:Get the idea out of your mind that the agent decides who can and cannot stay in the house. The landlord decides. If the landlord has a problem with the agent (and I've yet to deal with one who gets things right) then your best bet is to have a proper conversation with the landlord about what he wants to do with regard to the house, and the management of it.I’m really concerned if he decides not to give us the contract what will happen
I imagine though he will issue you a contract because it does seem too convuluted to be honest, as he could just tell you you need to go rather than make this strange story up.0 -
We won’t be able to find anything in 2 weeks if we confirm the termination dates with agency and landlord decided not to give us new contractReadySteadyPop said:
I would ask the agent what else they have on their books that you could rent if needed, and approach other agents without informing the landlord (there is always the danger that the agent lets slip to the landlord that you are asking about other properties, so maybe just look at their website for now, but going with the same agent would mean you don`t need a reference from them or the landlord for a new place?) Use PropertyLog to track rental reductions on Rightmove.Will123321 said:
Based on Yorkshire at the moment. Yes , the landlord did put us in an uncomfortable situation with rent.ReadySteadyPop said:
Don`t contact the agent, let the landlord contact you, look for another flat if it makes you feel more secure (and if there are cheaper options it could be a good bargaining tool for a rent reduction) I don`t know where you are but here in Scotland there are hundreds of To Let signs up now, the economy seems to be tanking fast up here.Will123321 said:
And if we give the notice to the agency and the landlord won’t give the contract, would we will have to leave on the termination date we have given ? It is a complex situation, but I want to be on a safe side , especially before Christmashousebuyer143 said:
If he doesn't give you a contract, and you haven't given notice then you don't leave at the end of the section 21 and he then starts court proceedings. You probably then have a few months to find something and leave before it goes to court.Will123321 said:
Well, we had a conversation and he said that we have 2 options, waiting till end of tenancy to renew the contract with him directly, or finish earlier and get direct to him earlier. The contract is short term 6 months. We have asked the agency about it and the landlord mentioned to tell the agents that our termination date will be end of the month, and once that is confirmed he will give us new contract.Mr.Generous said:Get the idea out of your mind that the agent decides who can and cannot stay in the house. The landlord decides. If the landlord has a problem with the agent (and I've yet to deal with one who gets things right) then your best bet is to have a proper conversation with the landlord about what he wants to do with regard to the house, and the management of it.I’m really concerned if he decides not to give us the contract what will happen
I imagine though he will issue you a contract because it does seem too convuluted to be honest, as he could just tell you you need to go rather than make this strange story up.0 -
Telling the agent that you have decided to go direct with the landlord isn`t the same as giving notice on the flat, but as other posters have said DO NOT contact the agent for anything on the landlord`s behalf, let the landlord make all the moves about his own lettings business for himself, take the advice you will get on here about how the eviction process works and start looking at other property to let ( a great time to contact the present agent about other property on their books would be the day after your landlord tells them he isn`t using them any more, they will probably find you something immediately so you can give him notice like he did to them, LOL)Will123321 said:
We won’t be able to find anything in 2 weeks if we confirm the termination dates with agency and landlord decided not to give us new contractReadySteadyPop said:
I would ask the agent what else they have on their books that you could rent if needed, and approach other agents without informing the landlord (there is always the danger that the agent lets slip to the landlord that you are asking about other properties, so maybe just look at their website for now, but going with the same agent would mean you don`t need a reference from them or the landlord for a new place?) Use PropertyLog to track rental reductions on Rightmove.Will123321 said:
Based on Yorkshire at the moment. Yes , the landlord did put us in an uncomfortable situation with rent.ReadySteadyPop said:
Don`t contact the agent, let the landlord contact you, look for another flat if it makes you feel more secure (and if there are cheaper options it could be a good bargaining tool for a rent reduction) I don`t know where you are but here in Scotland there are hundreds of To Let signs up now, the economy seems to be tanking fast up here.Will123321 said:
And if we give the notice to the agency and the landlord won’t give the contract, would we will have to leave on the termination date we have given ? It is a complex situation, but I want to be on a safe side , especially before Christmashousebuyer143 said:
If he doesn't give you a contract, and you haven't given notice then you don't leave at the end of the section 21 and he then starts court proceedings. You probably then have a few months to find something and leave before it goes to court.Will123321 said:
Well, we had a conversation and he said that we have 2 options, waiting till end of tenancy to renew the contract with him directly, or finish earlier and get direct to him earlier. The contract is short term 6 months. We have asked the agency about it and the landlord mentioned to tell the agents that our termination date will be end of the month, and once that is confirmed he will give us new contract.Mr.Generous said:Get the idea out of your mind that the agent decides who can and cannot stay in the house. The landlord decides. If the landlord has a problem with the agent (and I've yet to deal with one who gets things right) then your best bet is to have a proper conversation with the landlord about what he wants to do with regard to the house, and the management of it.I’m really concerned if he decides not to give us the contract what will happen
I imagine though he will issue you a contract because it does seem too convuluted to be honest, as he could just tell you you need to go rather than make this strange story up.0 -
Thanks, then I'm not sure why he asked us to email agency about early termination date. Unless he wants to get rid of us earlier than the finish date on the contractReadySteadyPop said:
Telling the agent that you have decided to go direct with the landlord isn`t the same as giving notice on the flat, but as other posters have said DO NOT contact the agent for anything on the landlord`s behalf, let the landlord make all the moves about his own lettings business for himself, take the advice you will get on here about how the eviction process works and start looking at other property to let ( a great time to contact the present agent about other property on their books would be the day after your landlord tells them he isn`t using them any more, they will probably find you something immediately so you can give him notice like he did to them, LOL)Will123321 said:
We won’t be able to find anything in 2 weeks if we confirm the termination dates with agency and landlord decided not to give us new contractReadySteadyPop said:
I would ask the agent what else they have on their books that you could rent if needed, and approach other agents without informing the landlord (there is always the danger that the agent lets slip to the landlord that you are asking about other properties, so maybe just look at their website for now, but going with the same agent would mean you don`t need a reference from them or the landlord for a new place?) Use PropertyLog to track rental reductions on Rightmove.Will123321 said:
Based on Yorkshire at the moment. Yes , the landlord did put us in an uncomfortable situation with rent.ReadySteadyPop said:
Don`t contact the agent, let the landlord contact you, look for another flat if it makes you feel more secure (and if there are cheaper options it could be a good bargaining tool for a rent reduction) I don`t know where you are but here in Scotland there are hundreds of To Let signs up now, the economy seems to be tanking fast up here.Will123321 said:
And if we give the notice to the agency and the landlord won’t give the contract, would we will have to leave on the termination date we have given ? It is a complex situation, but I want to be on a safe side , especially before Christmashousebuyer143 said:
If he doesn't give you a contract, and you haven't given notice then you don't leave at the end of the section 21 and he then starts court proceedings. You probably then have a few months to find something and leave before it goes to court.Will123321 said:
Well, we had a conversation and he said that we have 2 options, waiting till end of tenancy to renew the contract with him directly, or finish earlier and get direct to him earlier. The contract is short term 6 months. We have asked the agency about it and the landlord mentioned to tell the agents that our termination date will be end of the month, and once that is confirmed he will give us new contract.Mr.Generous said:Get the idea out of your mind that the agent decides who can and cannot stay in the house. The landlord decides. If the landlord has a problem with the agent (and I've yet to deal with one who gets things right) then your best bet is to have a proper conversation with the landlord about what he wants to do with regard to the house, and the management of it.I’m really concerned if he decides not to give us the contract what will happen
I imagine though he will issue you a contract because it does seem too convuluted to be honest, as he could just tell you you need to go rather than make this strange story up.0 -
There is a 3rd option - you wait until the end of the fixed term of your tenancy and then do nothing.Will123321 said:
Well, we had a conversation and he said that we have 2 options, waiting till end of tenancy to renew the contract with him directly, or finish earlier and get direct to him earlier. The contract is short term 6 months. We have asked the agency about it and the landlord mentioned to tell the agents that our termination date will be end of the month, and once that is confirmed he will give us new contract.Mr.Generous said:Get the idea out of your mind that the agent decides who can and cannot stay in the house. The landlord decides. If the landlord has a problem with the agent (and I've yet to deal with one who gets things right) then your best bet is to have a proper conversation with the landlord about what he wants to do with regard to the house, and the management of it.I’m really concerned if he decides not to give us the contract what will happen
If you have an Assured Shorthold Tenancy with a fixed term (e.g. 6 months) if you do nothing then at the end of that fixed term it automatically becomes a periodic rolling tenancy. You do not need to sign a new agreement to have an ongoing tenancy.
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You aren't listening to people or taking their advice.Will123321 said:
Thanks, then I'm not sure why he asked us to email agency about early termination date. Unless he wants to get rid of us earlier than the finish date on the contractReadySteadyPop said:
Telling the agent that you have decided to go direct with the landlord isn`t the same as giving notice on the flat, but as other posters have said DO NOT contact the agent for anything on the landlord`s behalf, let the landlord make all the moves about his own lettings business for himself, take the advice you will get on here about how the eviction process works and start looking at other property to let ( a great time to contact the present agent about other property on their books would be the day after your landlord tells them he isn`t using them any more, they will probably find you something immediately so you can give him notice like he did to them, LOL)Will123321 said:
We won’t be able to find anything in 2 weeks if we confirm the termination dates with agency and landlord decided not to give us new contractReadySteadyPop said:
I would ask the agent what else they have on their books that you could rent if needed, and approach other agents without informing the landlord (there is always the danger that the agent lets slip to the landlord that you are asking about other properties, so maybe just look at their website for now, but going with the same agent would mean you don`t need a reference from them or the landlord for a new place?) Use PropertyLog to track rental reductions on Rightmove.Will123321 said:
Based on Yorkshire at the moment. Yes , the landlord did put us in an uncomfortable situation with rent.ReadySteadyPop said:
Don`t contact the agent, let the landlord contact you, look for another flat if it makes you feel more secure (and if there are cheaper options it could be a good bargaining tool for a rent reduction) I don`t know where you are but here in Scotland there are hundreds of To Let signs up now, the economy seems to be tanking fast up here.Will123321 said:
And if we give the notice to the agency and the landlord won’t give the contract, would we will have to leave on the termination date we have given ? It is a complex situation, but I want to be on a safe side , especially before Christmashousebuyer143 said:
If he doesn't give you a contract, and you haven't given notice then you don't leave at the end of the section 21 and he then starts court proceedings. You probably then have a few months to find something and leave before it goes to court.Will123321 said:
Well, we had a conversation and he said that we have 2 options, waiting till end of tenancy to renew the contract with him directly, or finish earlier and get direct to him earlier. The contract is short term 6 months. We have asked the agency about it and the landlord mentioned to tell the agents that our termination date will be end of the month, and once that is confirmed he will give us new contract.Mr.Generous said:Get the idea out of your mind that the agent decides who can and cannot stay in the house. The landlord decides. If the landlord has a problem with the agent (and I've yet to deal with one who gets things right) then your best bet is to have a proper conversation with the landlord about what he wants to do with regard to the house, and the management of it.I’m really concerned if he decides not to give us the contract what will happen
I imagine though he will issue you a contract because it does seem too convuluted to be honest, as he could just tell you you need to go rather than make this strange story up.
You have been served notice and that's fine. Although the reasoning is bizarre.
Just sit tight and carry on with life. You aren't being evicted in 2 weeks time.
If your landlord wants to evict you then they will begin court proceedings. If they want to sack the agency and issue a new contract they will.
You can agree to that.
Listen to the advice you are being given in the last 3 pages2 -
The thing is I already emailed the agency to ask to terminate the contract earlier as the landlord advised. I haven’t replied back yet with a date. But the landlord said to mention end of the month and that’s when he will be give us new contract direct with him.HampshireH said:
You aren't listening to people or taking their advice.Will123321 said:
Thanks, then I'm not sure why he asked us to email agency about early termination date. Unless he wants to get rid of us earlier than the finish date on the contractReadySteadyPop said:
Telling the agent that you have decided to go direct with the landlord isn`t the same as giving notice on the flat, but as other posters have said DO NOT contact the agent for anything on the landlord`s behalf, let the landlord make all the moves about his own lettings business for himself, take the advice you will get on here about how the eviction process works and start looking at other property to let ( a great time to contact the present agent about other property on their books would be the day after your landlord tells them he isn`t using them any more, they will probably find you something immediately so you can give him notice like he did to them, LOL)Will123321 said:
We won’t be able to find anything in 2 weeks if we confirm the termination dates with agency and landlord decided not to give us new contractReadySteadyPop said:
I would ask the agent what else they have on their books that you could rent if needed, and approach other agents without informing the landlord (there is always the danger that the agent lets slip to the landlord that you are asking about other properties, so maybe just look at their website for now, but going with the same agent would mean you don`t need a reference from them or the landlord for a new place?) Use PropertyLog to track rental reductions on Rightmove.Will123321 said:
Based on Yorkshire at the moment. Yes , the landlord did put us in an uncomfortable situation with rent.ReadySteadyPop said:
Don`t contact the agent, let the landlord contact you, look for another flat if it makes you feel more secure (and if there are cheaper options it could be a good bargaining tool for a rent reduction) I don`t know where you are but here in Scotland there are hundreds of To Let signs up now, the economy seems to be tanking fast up here.Will123321 said:
And if we give the notice to the agency and the landlord won’t give the contract, would we will have to leave on the termination date we have given ? It is a complex situation, but I want to be on a safe side , especially before Christmashousebuyer143 said:
If he doesn't give you a contract, and you haven't given notice then you don't leave at the end of the section 21 and he then starts court proceedings. You probably then have a few months to find something and leave before it goes to court.Will123321 said:
Well, we had a conversation and he said that we have 2 options, waiting till end of tenancy to renew the contract with him directly, or finish earlier and get direct to him earlier. The contract is short term 6 months. We have asked the agency about it and the landlord mentioned to tell the agents that our termination date will be end of the month, and once that is confirmed he will give us new contract.Mr.Generous said:Get the idea out of your mind that the agent decides who can and cannot stay in the house. The landlord decides. If the landlord has a problem with the agent (and I've yet to deal with one who gets things right) then your best bet is to have a proper conversation with the landlord about what he wants to do with regard to the house, and the management of it.I’m really concerned if he decides not to give us the contract what will happen
I imagine though he will issue you a contract because it does seem too convuluted to be honest, as he could just tell you you need to go rather than make this strange story up.
You have been served notice and that's fine. Although the reasoning is bizarre.
Just sit tight and carry on with life. You aren't being evicted in 2 weeks time.
If your landlord wants to evict you then they will begin court proceedings. If they want to sack the agency and issue a new contract they will.
You can agree to that.
Listen to the advice you are being given in the last 3 pagesWell, that’s happen before I came to ask for help on here. Should’ve done this first l.0 -
I wasn’t aware about that. Thanks for the tip. Well, we won’t be able to do that as the landlord wants to get rid of agency and going direct with us.bobster2 said:
There is a 3rd option - you wait until the end of the fixed term of your tenancy and then do nothing.Will123321 said:
Well, we had a conversation and he said that we have 2 options, waiting till end of tenancy to renew the contract with him directly, or finish earlier and get direct to him earlier. The contract is short term 6 months. We have asked the agency about it and the landlord mentioned to tell the agents that our termination date will be end of the month, and once that is confirmed he will give us new contract.Mr.Generous said:Get the idea out of your mind that the agent decides who can and cannot stay in the house. The landlord decides. If the landlord has a problem with the agent (and I've yet to deal with one who gets things right) then your best bet is to have a proper conversation with the landlord about what he wants to do with regard to the house, and the management of it.I’m really concerned if he decides not to give us the contract what will happen
If you have an Assured Shorthold Tenancy with a fixed term (e.g. 6 months) if you do nothing then at the end of that fixed term it automatically becomes a periodic rolling tenancy. You do not need to sign a new agreement to have an ongoing tenancy.
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