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PIP was 2nd claim with new conditions but from 15 April 2025 new 3rd claim as advised.

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  • Cressida100
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    Are you going to just keep reapplying forever more? At what stage will you accept that perhaps you are not eligible for PIP (at this present time). You have been given loads of good advice on this thread - please re-read it from start to finish. 
  • tifo
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    edited 14 August at 4:09PM
    Are you going to just keep reapplying forever more? At what stage will you accept that perhaps you are not eligible for PIP (at this present time). You have been given loads of good advice on this thread - please re-read it from start to finish. 
    I've really only applied twice in the last 4 years, in 2021 and 2025, this time because of new conditions so i don't know where you get 'forever more' from. It's not like i'm making an application one after another.
  • marcia_
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    tifo said:
    Are you going to just keep reapplying forever more? At what stage will you accept that perhaps you are not eligible for PIP (at this present time). You have been given loads of good advice on this thread - please re-read it from start to finish. 
    I've really only applied twice in the last 4 years, in 2021 and 2025, this time because of new conditions so i don't know where you get 'forever more'.
     Not every one with a disability or medical condition qualifies for PIP. The rules are very narrow and you just don't fit them. You contradict yourself at times which will show in your applications 
  • born_again
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    tifo said:
    TBH, that is not a surprise.
    I'm not surprised but did think there was a chance if they consider mental illness as last time they didn't. The physical issues are still there too but .... what can i say.
    You last claim was declined mid April. Where you raised the mental issues on assessment call, so they would not take it on board, as it was not mentioned in the forms. You started then started a new claim on mental issues. So in 4 months you have had another assessment & 2 declines.
    As advised you should have waited longer before submitting again 🤷‍♀️


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  • Cressida100
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    Even though we have the opportunity and time to read about all your conditions on this thread it's still not very clear (to me) what you are actually claiming for?

    Do you have a mobility problem apart from the gout? Why do you need a bath stool? 

    You have had the benefit of great advice from an awful lot of people (including benefits advisors and ex PIP assessors), and even with all this help you have been declined again. I think it's time to call it a day at the moment and (maybe) reapply a few years down the line when you have given the MH therapy a chance. Your head must be frazzled. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. 
  • peteuk
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    edited 14 August at 6:52PM
    I have said it before and I will repeat myself…

    If it is easier for the assessor to support a nil with the evidence than it is a scoring discription they will do so.  Given the weight of evidence then I am not surprised it has not reached the high (and somewhat increasing) threshold to achieve a PIP claim. 

    A driving licence and ability to drive can be used to dismiss a lot of the physical activities. This has been discussed on many threads.  Unless your doctor tells you that you are unfit to drive, the fact you don't drive means very little.   

    I am sure I asked if you self referred to CBT or if you were referred by a doctor.

    Remember it is the ability to undertake an activity, repetitively and to a set standard and the ability to do so the majority of the time.  If your washing everyday, then the majority of mental health issues will be disregarded, if you then suggest your gout is well contolled and flares up for a week every two months (time frame used as an example) then that is not the majority of the time.  So you might use a stool to wash, but the evidence says you dont need it for the majority of the time. 


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  • sheramber
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    They did take your mental health into consideration and decided it warranted 2 points. 

    Just because you think you should have got more points doesn’t mean the assessor was wrong.

    What evidence do you have that you should have got more points. 
  • ayupmeduck
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    edited 15 August at 10:39AM
    Sitting to dress isn't considered at all and drive is counted for the physical activities in regards to movement, drip, dexterity etc
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