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What annoys me with Chip is:-
1. They never announced a change.
2. It was done with immediate effect unlike Tandem who gave their customers until 15th August before change.0 -
Precisely the reason I moved what I had in there to Skipton with immediate effect 👍MichaelAP said:What annoys me with Chip is:-
1. They never announced a change.
2. It was done with immediate effect unlike Tandem who gave their customers until 15th August before change.#39 - Save £12k in 20250 -
But isn't the 5.1% AER not Gross?masonic said:
That's the miracle of compounding at work.1spiral said:gravel_2 said:
Post above mine said it - Chip ISA is already down to 4.84 from 5.1.flaneurs_lobster said:
Any word on the Flexi ISA (I know there's an ISA board....)gravel_2 said:Chip saving down to 4.58%.
If this tracks the base rate, how comes it has dropped by 0.26 and not 0.25?
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1spiral said:
But isn't the 5.1% AER not Gross?masonic said:
That's the miracle of compounding at work.1spiral said:gravel_2 said:
Post above mine said it - Chip ISA is already down to 4.84 from 5.1.flaneurs_lobster said:
Any word on the Flexi ISA (I know there's an ISA board....)gravel_2 said:Chip saving down to 4.58%.
If this tracks the base rate, how comes it has dropped by 0.26 and not 0.25?Correct. The gross rate tracks the base rate. AER is an artificial figure provided to consumers so that they can compare like-for-like across savings products with different interest payment frequency. It is not used to determine how much interest is paid in real world scenarios. For that the gross rate is used.
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I've just been looking at alternative options if the Chase interest drops to 4.85% next week.refluxer said:
Yes, the account T&Cs state that rate changes will occur 5 business days after any changes to the base rate are announced.BigBlueSky said:
Will they definitely reduce it that quickly ?refluxer said:Today's BoE cut means that the recent boosted Chase Saver will go from 5.1% to 4.85% next Thursday (8th August).
The normal Chase Saver tracks 1.15% below the base rate and the most recent boosted Saver tracks 0.15% below (until next January)
However, looking at the terms & conditions again it appears to state that the underlying rate won't change until the 16th January 2024.
Quoted from Chase T&C's linked to account:
"What's the interest rate on the account?
The interest rate for the Chase saver account is currently 4.1% AER (variable, 4.02% gross), calculated every day and paid every month.Your interest rate with the boost is currently 5.1% AER (variable, 4.98% gross), calculated daily and paid monthly until 16 January 2025. After this date, the interest rate will change to the standard variable interest rate for the Chase saver account. We'll let you know when this is about to happen."
So the important point there stating the rate will only change on 16th Jan when the rate reverts to the standard variable interest rate and only then linked to the BoE rate.
So I believe in my circumstances the rate in the boosted account will not alter until 16/01/24 and it will then be linked to whatever the BoE rate will be.
We'll find out for certain next week...!
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Do you not see the word "currently" and "variable" straddling the 5.1% AER? The change mentioned in January is from the "boosted rate", which is variable, to the "standard variable rate".snnexus6 said:
I've just been looking at alternative options if the Chase interest drops to 4.85% next week.refluxer said:
Yes, the account T&Cs state that rate changes will occur 5 business days after any changes to the base rate are announced.BigBlueSky said:
Will they definitely reduce it that quickly ?refluxer said:Today's BoE cut means that the recent boosted Chase Saver will go from 5.1% to 4.85% next Thursday (8th August).
The normal Chase Saver tracks 1.15% below the base rate and the most recent boosted Saver tracks 0.15% below (until next January)
However, looking at the terms & conditions again it appears to state that the underlying rate won't change until the 16th January 2024.
Quoted from Chase T&C's linked to account:
"What's the interest rate on the account?
The interest rate for the Chase saver account is currently 4.1% AER (variable, 4.02% gross), calculated every day and paid every month.Your interest rate with the boost is currently 5.1% AER (variable, 4.98% gross), calculated daily and paid monthly until 16 January 2025. After this date, the interest rate will change to the standard variable interest rate for the Chase saver account. We'll let you know when this is about to happen."
So the important point there stating the rate will only change on 16th Jan when the rate reverts to the standard variable interest rate and only then linked to the BoE rate.
So I believe in my circumstances the rate in the boosted account will not alter until 16/01/24 and it will then be linked to whatever the BoE rate will be.
We'll find out for certain next week...!
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They didn't need to, the product page stated that the variable element tracked the base rate.MichaelAP said:What annoys me with Chip is:-
1. They never announced a change.
2. It was done with immediate effect unlike Tandem who gave their customers until 15th August before change.2 -
read the next para 'Can the interest rate change'snnexus6 said:
I've just been looking at alternative options if the Chase interest drops to 4.85% next week.refluxer said:
Yes, the account T&Cs state that rate changes will occur 5 business days after any changes to the base rate are announced.BigBlueSky said:
Will they definitely reduce it that quickly ?refluxer said:Today's BoE cut means that the recent boosted Chase Saver will go from 5.1% to 4.85% next Thursday (8th August).
The normal Chase Saver tracks 1.15% below the base rate and the most recent boosted Saver tracks 0.15% below (until next January)
However, looking at the terms & conditions again it appears to state that the underlying rate won't change until the 16th January 2024.
Quoted from Chase T&C's linked to account:
"What's the interest rate on the account?
The interest rate for the Chase saver account is currently 4.1% AER (variable, 4.02% gross), calculated every day and paid every month.Your interest rate with the boost is currently 5.1% AER (variable, 4.98% gross), calculated daily and paid monthly until 16 January 2025. After this date, the interest rate will change to the standard variable interest rate for the Chase saver account. We'll let you know when this is about to happen."
So the important point there stating the rate will only change on 16th Jan when the rate reverts to the standard variable interest rate and only then linked to the BoE rate.
So I believe in my circumstances the rate in the boosted account will not alter until 16/01/24 and it will then be linked to whatever the BoE rate will be.
We'll find out for certain next week...!
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As noted, it's important to realise that the Chip savings accounts (ISA and non-ISA) are trackers. Changes in the base rate are reflected immediately in the interest rate you get. There's no 14 day notice for such a change. As also noted, the gross interest rate was reduced by exactly 0.25%. However when these rates are turned into "AER" rates the reduction was 0.26% because with lower interest rates there's less compounding: 4.99% gross paid monthly turns into 5.10% AER while 4.74% only turns into 4.84% AER. That's just way the AER formula works.1
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Santander have brought out Issue 2 of the Edge Saver with interest reduced to 6% AER on £4000 (4.5% + 1.5% bonus for 12 months).
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