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  • Danien
    Danien Posts: 247 Forumite
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    edited 29 May 2024 at 1:42PM
    I got something else to ask, when I get my PIP, will some part of my Universal Credit like for example rent element, will that be stopped? will I have to pay rent out of my PIP or will I get full rent as normal as UC pay my Housing Association full rent direct which they get my rent payment on the same day that I get paid. Will I have to pay rent from my PIP? 

    Sorry, I don't know how this PIP works as I never claimed it before in my life lol. 
    Having PIP can increase UC in certain circumstances, it can never decrease UC.
    But a build up of PIP money is still counted as capital, so if your all capital increases to over £6k  then there will be a deduction from UC. 
    I think any arrears of benefit payments are disregarded for a year.
  • KxMx
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    I got something else to ask, when I get my PIP, will some part of my Universal Credit like for example rent element, will that be stopped? will I have to pay rent out of my PIP or will I get full rent as normal as UC pay my Housing Association full rent direct which they get my rent payment on the same day that I get paid. Will I have to pay rent from my PIP? 

    Sorry, I don't know how this PIP works as I never claimed it before in my life lol. 
    Having PIP can increase UC in certain circumstances, it can never decrease UC.
    But a build up of PIP money is still counted as capital, so if your all capital increases to over £6k  then there will be a deduction from UC. 
    The initial PIP back pay doesn't count as capital for UC purposes until after 12 months. 
  • HillStreetBlues
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    edited 29 May 2024 at 1:10PM
    KxMx said:
    The initial PIP back pay doesn't count as capital for UC purposes until after 12 months. 
    I agree that the back payments are treated differently to a build up of money,  I have edited my post to clarify this.
    Let's Be Careful Out There
  • Jack_bauer24
    Jack_bauer24 Posts: 308 Forumite
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    edited 29 May 2024 at 1:15PM
    Danien said:
    Someone on Facebook have told me that the decision maker doesn't go off the reports and I can still get declined, is this true? I am so stressed now lol. 
    Oh dear, those awful FB groups again.  :| If it was me I'd be clicking "leave group" and never return. 
    Haha, so is it not true then? do decision maker go with the assessor report? 
    99% of the time they go with the assessor report. That's what it's there for - for a health professional to establish what points you score. To ignore it without good reason is unheard of. Like has already been said, they'd only do that if there was a serious problem with the report and yours looks fine to me.
    Hi Danien, thank you so much for assuring me, that has eased my anxieties :) 
  • Jack_bauer24
    Jack_bauer24 Posts: 308 Forumite
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    Hi, just a quick update: I phoned PIP up, I spoken to someone to check if any update, and he said that it's signed off, but it's with a case worker to look at and make a final decision. Now, this has got me worried, are case worker the same thing as a decision maker? 
  • born_again
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    Hi, just a quick update: I phoned PIP up, I spoken to someone to check if any update, and he said that it's signed off, but it's with a case worker to look at and make a final decision. Now, this has got me worried, are case worker the same thing as a decision maker? 
    Please stop worrying. Yes that is far easier for us to say, than you to do. But no matter what the outcome is...

    You have seen the results from the assessor. Should anyone change anything, then you have mandatory reconsideration route & if that is rejected tribunal. They would be very hard pressed to come up with a valid reason to disagree with the result.
    Life in the slow lane
  • poppy12345
    poppy12345 Posts: 18,882 Forumite
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    Hi, just a quick update: I phoned PIP up, I spoken to someone to check if any update, and he said that it's signed off, but it's with a case worker to look at and make a final decision. Now, this has got me worried, are case worker the same thing as a decision maker? 
    Ringing them like this will only make you even more anxious than you already are. You've had the assessment report which was in your favour. As others have continued to advise, it's very unusual for them to go against the report and if they do it's mostly to award more points, rather than remove them so it's very very rare for them to remove points. 

    I've had many assessments in the past 11 years and have never known them go against any reports. I totally understand the stress it all causes but please try to focus on something else. Once a decision is made you will be contacted. If you gave a mobile number on the form then very often they send a text once awarded. 
  • Jack_bauer24
    Jack_bauer24 Posts: 308 Forumite
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    Hi, just a quick update: I phoned PIP up, I spoken to someone to check if any update, and he said that it's signed off, but it's with a case worker to look at and make a final decision. Now, this has got me worried, are case worker the same thing as a decision maker? 
    Ringing them like this will only make you even more anxious than you already are. You've had the assessment report which was in your favour. As others have continued to advise, it's very unusual for them to go against the report and if they do it's mostly to award more points, rather than remove them so it's very very rare for them to remove points. 

    I've had many assessments in the past 11 years and have never known them go against any reports. I totally understand the stress it all causes but please try to focus on something else. Once a decision is made you will be contacted. If you gave a mobile number on the form then very often they send a text once awarded. 
    Ok, thank you Poppy and yes, my form has my mobile number on. :) 
  • Jack_bauer24
    Jack_bauer24 Posts: 308 Forumite
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    Hi, just a quick update: I phoned PIP up, I spoken to someone to check if any update, and he said that it's signed off, but it's with a case worker to look at and make a final decision. Now, this has got me worried, are case worker the same thing as a decision maker? 
    Please stop worrying. Yes that is far easier for us to say, than you to do. But no matter what the outcome is...

    You have seen the results from the assessor. Should anyone change anything, then you have mandatory reconsideration route & if that is rejected tribunal. They would be very hard pressed to come up with a valid reason to disagree with the result.
    Ok, thank you. :)  
  • Robbie64
    Robbie64 Posts: 2,185 Forumite
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    Hi, just a quick update: I phoned PIP up, I spoken to someone to check if any update, and he said that it's signed off, but it's with a case worker to look at and make a final decision. Now, this has got me worried, are case worker the same thing as a decision maker? 
    The PIP equivalent of a Decision Maker is a Case Manager.

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