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  • HillStreetBlues
    HillStreetBlues Posts: 6,158 Forumite
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    Just a quick question. Even though I got 14 points on both, I didn't supply enough medical evidence. I just supplied a few lncluding my recent 3 month fit note and my medical conditions etc. Could the case manager turn my pip down because I didn't supply enough evidence? this has got me stressed out now. 
    The decision will be based on the assessment, the only time they also take into account other evidence is to increase an award (can't happen in your case).
    Let's Be Careful Out There
  • Jack_bauer24
    Jack_bauer24 Posts: 309 Forumite
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    Just a quick question. Even though I got 14 points on both, I didn't supply enough medical evidence. I just supplied a few lncluding my recent 3 month fit note and my medical conditions etc. Could the case manager turn my pip down because I didn't supply enough evidence? this has got me stressed out now. 
    The decision will be based on the assessment, the only time they also take into account other evidence is to increase an award (can't happen in your case).
    Hi, ok thank you so much for letting me know. This has eased my anxitites :smile:
  • peteuk
    peteuk Posts: 2,004 Forumite
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    Just a quick question. Even though I got 14 points on both, I didn't supply enough medical evidence. I just supplied a few lncluding my recent 3 month fit note and my medical conditions etc. Could the case manager turn my pip down because I didn't supply enough evidence? this has got me stressed out now. 
    To add to the reply already, the evidence is used for the assessment, if the assessment was borderline then the DM may look at the evidence however because you've scored for both elements I cant see why the DM would look at the evidence, more rely on the health care professional to base the report on the PIP questionnaire, assessment and evidence provided. 

    You’re over thinking this, and I get your anxious about this. You cant now add evidence unless your challenging the DM decision, which you havent got yet.  Equally if, as suspected youve been awarded enhanced for both awards there is nothing to challenge. 
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  • Jack_bauer24
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    peteuk said:
    Just a quick question. Even though I got 14 points on both, I didn't supply enough medical evidence. I just supplied a few lncluding my recent 3 month fit note and my medical conditions etc. Could the case manager turn my pip down because I didn't supply enough evidence? this has got me stressed out now. 
    To add to the reply already, the evidence is used for the assessment, if the assessment was borderline then the DM may look at the evidence however because you've scored for both elements I cant see why the DM would look at the evidence, more rely on the health care professional to base the report on the PIP questionnaire, assessment and evidence provided. 

    You’re over thinking this, and I get your anxious about this. You cant now add evidence unless your challenging the DM decision, which you havent got yet.  Equally if, as suspected youve been awarded enhanced for both awards there is nothing to challenge. 
    Ok, thank you Pete for letting me know. I was just worried as like I stated a few times, I never claimed PIP before in my life, so I don't know how it works. 😃

    Thanks for explaining it to me. 
  • Jack_bauer24
    Jack_bauer24 Posts: 309 Forumite
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    Just a quick question. Even though I got 14 points on both, I didn't supply enough medical evidence. I just supplied a few lncluding my recent 3 month fit note and my medical conditions etc. Could the case manager turn my pip down because I didn't supply enough evidence? this has got me stressed out now. 
    I re-iterate what Pete above says "You’re over thinking this, and I get your anxious about this."

    You are repeatedly trying to calm anxious thoughts by over thinking this PIP application and creating anxieties as a result that have neither value or reason. This is why anxiety disables you. While you may not be able to fix that (distraction is a useful technique I use) it is helpful to appreciate that this is what happens and try to rationalise it. I had hoped in getting the report either your anxieties would be severely curtailed (as it definitely helps many claimants who primarily fear the assessment going wrong/badly) or you'd be better situated to challenge a decision that could come - since the report is an exceptionally good one for you it is unfortunate that your anxious thoughts seem completely unchecked. I am concerned that even when the decision (likely a maximum award) comes that too may not work and that anxious thoughts about your PIP may persist intrusively - let's hope not! 

    Try to distract yourself until the decision letter arrives. That could take weeks but I hope not many of them. There is nothing you can do at this point and all indications are good for your application. As you have been told many times the Decision Maker almost always simply agrees with the assessment report. The Assessor themselves will have looked at other evidence in assessing you and creating their report and that is clearly evident in what you quote of that report - had they felt they lacked evidence to draw their conclusions they would not have concluded as they did. Remember your case will land on the desk of someone who is probably being rushed to get through a lot of cases... they've got a comprehensive report they can almost certainly rely on and save themselves time by agreeing with it.

    I am setting you a personal test. Until the decision is received try to avoid any further questions here on the thread. If you feel you need to ask a question I want you to try to first think about that question and whether it has any real value or if it is just a symptom of your anxiety - only post it if you are absolutely convinced the question is not a result of your anxiety disorder and that actually we can give important or useful information in response.
    Hi, I understand what you are saying and I am going to focus on something else now. I will update this page when I get my final decision and thank you again for adding the points up for me. :)
  • Jack_bauer24
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    Update: Still no decision as it's still with the case manager, so it's been 3 weeks since my assessment as I have been ringing Tuesday and yesterday for an update, but people on Facebook have warned me to be very careful as my PIP will go against me if I keep ringing, is this true? as I suffer from social anxiety and if it's true, I am just leaving it be now, as I am scared of ringing up just in case it goes against me. I am just desperate that is all why I keep ringing as I am running out of money, also It looks like I will have to sell my smart TV soon till this PIP comes through.
  • peteuk
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    Update: Still no decision as it's still with the case manager, so it's been 3 weeks since my assessment as I have been ringing Tuesday and yesterday for an update, but people on Facebook have warned me to be very careful as my PIP will go against me if I keep ringing, is this true? as I suffer from social anxiety and if it's true, I am just leaving it be now, as I am scared of ringing up just in case it goes against me. I am just desperate that is all why I keep ringing as I am running out of money, also It looks like I will have to sell my smart TV soon till this PIP comes through.
    STOP!  - get off fakebook, stop chasing your results and focus on something else. 

    Although phoning will not change the outcome of your assessment, you are wasting energy and time in doing so, equally your tieing up the phone lines for others that need help.  

    THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO BUT WAIT - once the DM has reviewed your assessment and a decision is made then and only then you will find out the outcome.   When I was assessing I was told the gap between assessment and decision was eight weeks, at present the average time is twelve weeks. 

    YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING UNTIL THE DECISION IS MADE!   I get your anxious and running out of money, but nothing is going to speed this up, you are not going to get any money quicker

    Sorry to be so harsh but youve been told mulitple times,  get away from toxic posts and places like facebook. 

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  • Jack_bauer24
    Jack_bauer24 Posts: 309 Forumite
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    peteuk said:
    Update: Still no decision as it's still with the case manager, so it's been 3 weeks since my assessment as I have been ringing Tuesday and yesterday for an update, but people on Facebook have warned me to be very careful as my PIP will go against me if I keep ringing, is this true? as I suffer from social anxiety and if it's true, I am just leaving it be now, as I am scared of ringing up just in case it goes against me. I am just desperate that is all why I keep ringing as I am running out of money, also It looks like I will have to sell my smart TV soon till this PIP comes through.
    STOP!  - get off fakebook, stop chasing your results and focus on something else. 

    Although phoning will not change the outcome of your assessment, you are wasting energy and time in doing so, equally your tieing up the phone lines for others that need help.  

    THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO BUT WAIT - once the DM has reviewed your assessment and a decision is made then and only then you will find out the outcome.   When I was assessing I was told the gap between assessment and decision was eight weeks, at present the average time is twelve weeks. 

    YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING UNTIL THE DECISION IS MADE!   I get your anxious and running out of money, but nothing is going to speed this up, you are not going to get any money quicker

    Sorry to be so harsh but youve been told mulitple times,  get away from toxic posts and places like facebook. 

    Ok, I understand, but they is no need to shout and put capital letters. 
  • Muttleythefrog
    Muttleythefrog Posts: 20,440 Forumite
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    Update: Still no decision as it's still with the case manager, so it's been 3 weeks since my assessment as I have been ringing Tuesday and yesterday for an update, but people on Facebook have warned me to be very careful as my PIP will go against me if I keep ringing, is this true? as I suffer from social anxiety and if it's true, I am just leaving it be now, as I am scared of ringing up just in case it goes against me. I am just desperate that is all why I keep ringing as I am running out of money, also It looks like I will have to sell my smart TV soon till this PIP comes through.
    Stop calling them...stop stewing among people increasing your anxiety... completely and utterly useless at this point in time! I am ignoring your question because it doesn't meet the test I set you... it is about your anxiety and not a legitimate request for benefit advice. As advised the decision would likely take weeks but hopefully not too many of them. I remain hopeful that decision will curtail your anxiety but I will strongly advise you when decision is received to terminate your use of the places you are getting benefit advice until you genuinely face an issue over your benefits. 

    Distract yourself as best you can.
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